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       #Post#: 125584--------------------------------------------------
       Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: StrummerJonny
       Date: July 24, 2026, 6:15 am
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       Hi, I received a PCN for stopping on a "red route or clearway"
       near Luton Airport, see photos. I had gone to pick someone up
       but was a severe delay to the flight so was unsure what the
       airport pick up zone laws were. I waited, along with 3 other
       cars, in a turn off, and entrance to a business. I waited in the
       car the entire time, with the engine running (was heatwave
       weather so had AC on) so not sure what definition of stopping
       they use. Is it worth appealing on those grounds? Or is there a
       better angle to appeal or should I just lap it up? TIA
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       #Post#: 125587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: baroudeur
       Date: July 24, 2026, 6:36 am
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       It's a red route so no stopping at any time.
       Regularly patrolled by Luton's CEOs up until 10pm or later.  Did
       you not see one?  Or are they now using enforcement cameras?
       Edit:  Second look I see it's a camera enforcement.  I drop and
       pick up regularly at Luton, hadn't noticed but not surprised,
       there is now camera enforcement on the approach roads. I have an
       account with APCOA for an easier life.
       #Post#: 125592--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: July 24, 2026, 7:02 am
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       That's a council penalty charge notice, not a private parking
       charge notice. I've asked a mod to move it.
       #Post#: 125605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: StrummerJonny
       Date: July 24, 2026, 9:38 am
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       --- Quote from: baroudeur link ---
       >
       > It's a red route so no stopping at any time.
       >
       > Regularly patrolled by Luton's CEOs up until 10pm or later.
       Did you not see one?  Or are they now using enforcement cameras?
       >
       > Edit:  Second look I see it's a camera enforcement.  I drop
       and pick up regularly at Luton, hadn't noticed but not
       surprised, there is now camera enforcement on the approach
       roads. I have an account with APCOA for an easier life.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for your response. So should I just lap it up and pay? Is
       it worth appealing? My argument would be that I stopped on a
       side road, though the charge says "red route or clearway". If I
       do appeal and am unsuccessful will I have the opportunity to pay
       the reduced amount that they offer?
       Many thanks.
       #Post#: 125621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: July 24, 2026, 11:47 am
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       wait till a Civil Parking expert looks at it before you do
       anything.
       #Post#: 125630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 24, 2026, 12:21 pm
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       Councils normally re-offer the discount when rejecting reps
       against a PCN provided those reps are received within the
       discount period, but we see almost no Luton PCNs at all, so
       cannot give a definite answer.
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       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: baroudeur
       Date: July 26, 2026, 8:04 am
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       Luton BC has been very careful to mark the red route lines to
       the boundary of the premises.  The photo you supplied shows your
       vehicle on the red lines not the DYL of the premises.
       GSV shows it clearly
  HTML https://tinyurl.com/4rmjfmwv
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       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 26, 2026, 8:35 am
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       Pl post the whole PCN.
       #Post#: 127351--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: StrummerJonny
       Date: August 9, 2026, 4:47 pm
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       Hi, apologies for the slow response, was away. Please see full
       PCN here:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18G6xNmb5VW6Pryn3ULiiVcVJI2K3F9kN?usp=sharing
       Appreciate any thoughts, advice you have.
       Many thanks.
       #Post#: 127356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Luton Airport PCN
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 9, 2026, 5:39 pm
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       Looking at GSV, there are signs for the Red Route at each end of
       Airport Way, so their service of a postal PCN is lawful.
       Did you now know what Red Lines mean, as they seem pretty clear
       on GSV. Postal PCNs for Red Routes are money-for-old-rope, for
       councils as all they need are a few CCTV cameras, and bingo, the
       money rolls in. No need to employ expensive CEO patrols.
       Frankly, I see no credible appeal argument. The irony of your
       situation is that if you had parked further in by the
       double-yellow lines they could not have sent you a postal PCN, a
       CEO on patrol would have had to serve it directly to you or the
       car.
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