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Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Morituri
Date: July 23, 2026, 9:44 am
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Hi,
Hope someone can assist.
As above, I have just received a PCN for a Dartford Crossing
that it seems I paid a day late. The PCN is dated 15/06 but I
have only just received it.
The PCN lists the Road User Charge as part of the fine.
If I remember rightly, they aren’t allowed to do this.
Is there any chance that someone has wording that I can use on
the appeal please.
Many, many thanks in advance.
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Chubs
Date: July 23, 2026, 10:01 am
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Check online what they're asking you to pay. I did this
recently, 2 crossings, so I went online to pay it and all I had
to pay was the charge itself because it was my 1st time.
They did send me a pcn a few years ago actually, so I appealed
it and attached a copy of the bloody receipt to show I had paid
it!
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Morituri
Date: July 23, 2026, 10:08 am
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply but over the years this isn’t the first
time time unfortunately.
Cheers
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 23, 2026, 11:25 am
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As above, I have just received a PCN for a Dartford Crossing
that it seems I paid a day late. The PCN is dated 15/06 but I
have only just received it.
Cannot just be passed by without detailed analysis IMO.
Do you live at the address on the PCN, or perhaps you're not the
registered keeper, could it be a hire car, or perhaps it was
served as presumed but you were on holiday etc?
Pl post the PCN.
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Morituri
Date: July 23, 2026, 11:53 am
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I will do when I can but it is the standard PCN which has the
£3.50 crossing charge added to the penalty.
I paid the charge although 7 hours late.
I seem to remember that it rendered the PCN invalid if the
charge had been paid even if a bit late
Cheers
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Morituri
Date: July 23, 2026, 11:56 am
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This was from Reddit, is it still applicable?
“Do nothing and wait, you have paid the fee, if the system works
as intended nothing will happen , occasionally things go wrong
and they'll issue some form of penalty for nonpayment, your bank
statement will clearly say that you've paid before the penalty
for non payment was issued rendering the penalty unlawful, you
will then appeal on these grounds and they will accept your
appeal.
If you'd left it beyond a certain point the system won't accept
payment and that's a whole different situation.”
Cheers
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/13th4n5/late_paying_dart_charge_by_one_day_will_i_get_a/
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 23, 2026, 2:53 pm
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The relevant regulations are The Road User Charging Schemes
(Penalty Charges, Adjudication and Enforcement) (England)
Regulations 2013
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/1783/contents/made
and also
The A282 Trunk Road (Dartford-Thurrock Crossing Charging Scheme)
Order 2013
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/2249/contents
There have been two minor amendments since but nothing to change
the basis of the Order
Two points to be made; (1) there are no powers in the Road User
Charging regulations for an unpaid toll fee to be requested on a
PCN. (2) a PCN can be issued when the toll fee is paid late, but
this cannot be held against a future crossing and the toll fee
be requested again. The PCN is for paying late, but the toll fee
has been paid. This was decided at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal
by the Chief Adjudicator Caroliine Shepherd, no less, in 2018,
but there has been a subsequent adverse decision by what I rank
as a teenage scribbler adjudicator who seemed woefully ignorant
of the regulations.
However, having said the above, the A282 Order has this to say
on PCNs: -
--- Quote ---
> Penalty charge for non-payment of charge under the second
charging regime
> 8.—(1) A penalty charge of the amount shown in Part 1 of
Schedule 4 is payable in respect of a motor vehicle upon which a
charge under the second charging regime has been imposed and
where such charge has not been paid in full before midnight on
the day immediately following the day on which that charge was
imposed.
>
> (2) A penalty charge payable under paragraph (1) is—
>
> (a)payable in addition to the charge imposed by the second
charging regime;
>
> (b)to be paid in full within the period of 28 days beginning
with the date on which a penalty charge notice relating to the
charge that has not been paid in full is served;
>
> (c)reduced by one half provided it is paid in full prior to
the end of the fourteenth day of the period referred to in
paragraph (2);
>
> (d)increased by one half if not paid in full before a charge
certificate to which it relates is served by the Secretary of
State (as the charging authority) in accordance with regulation
17 of the Enforcement Regulations.
--- End Quote ---
The charge imposed by the second charging regime is the toll
fee. The second regime came into effect when the toll became
payable on-line rather than at a toll booth.
Note the title refers to non-payment, not late payment. My
opinion is that requesting a second payment of the toll fee is
wrong in law as payment has been made albeint late, and the PCN
is a penalty for late payment, not non-payment.
Thats my opinion anyway, but wait and see what the others say.
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Morituri
Date: July 23, 2026, 3:53 pm
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Thanks for detailing the relevant regs…
Much appreciated
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 23, 2026, 4:28 pm
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And..
As above, I have just received a PCN for a Dartford Crossing
that it seems I paid a day late. The PCN is dated 15/06 but I
have only just received it.
Cannot just be passed by without detailed analysis IMO.
Do you live at the address on the PCN, or perhaps you're not the
registered keeper, could it be a hire car, or perhaps it was
served as presumed but you were on holiday etc? a day late. The
PCN is dated 15/06 but I have only just received it.
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Re: Dart Charge - Paid a Day late, Road user charge on PCN
DIR By: Morituri
Date: July 24, 2026, 8:26 am
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Attached is the PCN and payment confirmation.
Is there specific verbiage I need to use when challenging it?
Many Thanks
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