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S172 failing to stop for police officer.
DIR By: Always Away
Date: July 21, 2026, 10:50 am
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I have just returned from a holiday in Marakesh this week , to
be informed we have a s172 in the office for one of our courtesy
vehicles, failing to stop for a police officer.
The vehicle hadnt been booked out and no one is admitting to be
the driver . Our CCTV hasnt shown it being moved because it
wasnt parked within the CCTV scope. We are about to present
these facts to the Police and ask if they perhaps have dash cam
footage which may help track down the culprit .
We have about 6 courtesy vehicles on site usually and everyone
is aware how important doing the paperwork is when they go out.
The vehicle is registered to my Limited Company which I am the
main Director , I certainly wasn't driving as I was abroad. I
havent been to work since December . I work remotely in the
Scottish Highlands and my business is down in South Wales with
10 employees , most of whom have keys for the premises (we
employ truck drivers who work unsociable hours) and mechanics
who all have access to the key cupboard .
Am I likely to be prosecuted personally if the culprit isn't
found?
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Re: S172 failing to stop for police officer.
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: July 21, 2026, 12:00 pm
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There is no "we". There is never a "we". There are separate
legal entities.
As the company is the RK, presumably the s. 172 requirement is
addressed to the company?
Ordinarily, if the addressee of the s. 172 requirement failed to
name the driver, it would be prosecuted for the s. 172 offence.
If that entity is a "body corporate", it cannot rely on the
reasonable diligence defence unless it can show that the failure
to keep records of who was driving was reasonable.
Unless you personally receive an s. 172 requirement, you could
only be [successfully] prosecuted for the s. 172 offence is if
they have evidence of connivance.
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Re: S172 failing to stop for police officer.
DIR By: Always Away
Date: July 21, 2026, 1:28 pm
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The vehicle is registered to the LTD company .Whilst I haven't
seen the S172 I will ask the question tomorrow .
Thank you.
#Post#: 125415--------------------------------------------------
Re: S172 failing to stop for police officer.
DIR By: roythebus
Date: July 22, 2026, 12:37 pm
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If the company fails to comply with the s172 it will be liable
to a fine of £1000 plus costs etc. The director or company
secretary cannot be held personally responsible unless there's
some sort of connivance. I'd suggest you ensure that all
courtesy car journeys are recorded in future.
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Re: S172 failing to stop for police officer.
DIR By: sparx
Date: July 29, 2026, 5:09 pm
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To add to roys comment, this is something I've had to chat about
to the people in the know at work - as there is never any logs
(outside of personal device logins) as to who is driving.
Even CCTV on the key locker, and fit some obnoxious key tags
(different for each car) so it's obvious which key has been
taken by who.
Which is a good point, do you have a key locker, and is there
CCTV on it?
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Re: S172 failing to stop for police officer.
DIR By: roythebus
Date: July 31, 2026, 5:35 am
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Yoiu really need to keep a closer check on who was driving and
when. I speak from experience but won't hijack the thread with
my details. Maybe the simplest way is to fit the courtesy cars
with dashcam which can also see inside the car. Fit the
dashcamera in the back window but point it forward, that way it
won't infringe on the driver's privacy.
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