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       #Post#: 124848--------------------------------------------------
       Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: Marylee
       Date: July 15, 2026, 3:10 pm
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       Hi Ftla community!
       I hope you can assist me, I unfortunately received a parking,
       when parked in Lewisham.
       I was confused to have received this ticket, as the parking
       warden told me that it was okay to park here, as the parking
       sign had been taken down, a few feet from where my van was
       parked.
       There was a parking sign up the road, but this was quite a bit
       of distance from my van.
       My vehicle is the black Van.
       I now realise I made a mistake, when I did not get the parking
       wardens name, but I am able to describe her, and I can go back
       and try and get her name if required.
       I wonder if you could please assist and please help me with my
       appeal.
       Please see link to evidence -
  HTML https://postimg.cc/gallery/zJh9fKF
       Thank you  :)
       #Post#: 124850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: catnip
       Date: July 15, 2026, 3:30 pm
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       Please provide a Google Street View link to the location as well
       as clearer PCN images from the Lewisham website (or confirm PCN
       number and Reg so we can check).
       #Post#: 124851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: Marylee
       Date: July 15, 2026, 3:40 pm
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       Thanks for your quick reply Catnip
       Please see google maps link -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/WUDQyrtcyixW3vq96
       Also vehicle reg is : LS26ZXL
       PCN Number is : ZY22371001
       Thanks for your help!
       #Post#: 124857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 15, 2026, 5:07 pm
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       It's a long bay, and GSV shows two signs for it, the one you say
       is missing, and the one by the raised section of the carriageway
       further up. Both signs for the parking are identical, with the
       same bay code.
       OK, there is a sign missing, but you are still under a duty to
       seek out the bay sign which is not far away at all being about
       18 metres away.
       YOu appear to have misinterpreted the CEOs advice. Yes, parking
       is allowed in the bay, but on a payment basis, unless you are a
       permit holder.
       #Post#: 124882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: Marylee
       Date: July 16, 2026, 3:25 am
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       Hi Incandescent,
       Thanks for clarifying.
       The parking warden told me 100%, that I would be able to park
       there for free, as the sign has been taken off.
       I am able to describe her, and can go back and try and get her
       name if required.
       I had my friend with my, who is my witness.
       However lesson learnt, don't listen to a parking warden.
       Is this a parking appeal, that I have no chance in winning then?
       Should I just pay the parking fine, and cut my losses?
       Thank you
       #Post#: 124884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 16, 2026, 3:33 am
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       Don't pay yet, until you have submitted what is called an
       "informal challenge" to the PCN. You should base your
       representation on what you have told us, and also mention that
       you have a witness who can confirm the conversation with the
       CEO. Don't be confrontational, just firm. Once you get a
       response, please post it here, and you can decide whether to
       then cough-up, (the discount will be re-offered, see back of
       your PCN), or take them all the way to London Tribunals.
       Next enforcement stage is the service of a Notice to Owner. Are
       you the owner, and if so, is your V5C up-to-date, because the
       NtO is sent to the name and address on the V5C ?
       #Post#: 124887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: Marylee
       Date: July 16, 2026, 3:48 am
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       Thank you! Ill get my appeal done today.
       This is a company vehicle, so I am just the driver on this
       vehicle.
       Will I need to notify them about this, and get this PCN
       transferred to my personal name?
       Thank you
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       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 16, 2026, 4:14 am
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       Ah, but does your employer own the van, it could be leased ?
       Things get very complex when the PCN recipient isn't the owner.
       So you need to find out who owns the van and what happens when
       PCNs are received by drivers.
       #Post#: 124892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: Marylee
       Date: July 16, 2026, 4:51 am
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       Yes my employer owns this van, with previous parking fines, we
       usually just tell the parking fine agency, who the driver of the
       vehicle was. Thank you
       #Post#: 124902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham Council PCM - Appeal - No visible signs
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 16, 2026, 7:13 am
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       Will I need to notify them [your employer] about this, and get
       this PCN transferred to my personal name?
       IMO,
       Tell them?
       I would* because they would be the recipients of a Notice to
       Owner requiring THEM to pay or challenge.
       Get this PCN transferred to my personal name? They cannot. This
       applies only in the case of 'vehicle hire firms' where a 'hiring
       agreement' exists.
       *- timing is up to you. You could tell them now and add they
       you're in the process of challenging for the reasons you've set
       out here. At least this would set the narrative should they
       subsequently receive a NTO.
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