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#Post#: 125031--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 01 Parked in restricted street -
Palmer Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 17, 2026, 10:35 am
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I would put in an informal challenge now. Draft it and we'll
tweak it.
Is the pic of the boxes on trolley coincidental?
One objection is, could you have parked in a pay bay. I see
Palmer Street is all double yellows but there are pay bays
nearby.
#Post#: 125194--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 01 Parked in restricted street -
Palmer Street
DIR By: jays86
Date: July 20, 2026, 9:53 am
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Hi
Please see below my drafted appeal, the boxes on the trolley
were the only reason I was at that location at that time.
--- Quote ---
> I make formal representations against the above Penalty Charge
Notice on the basis that my vehicle was engaged in a continuous
unloading operation and was therefore benefiting from the
loading/unloading exemption applicable to the restriction.
>
> The vehicle was stopped on double yellow lines solely for the
purpose of unloading approximately ten sealed boxes containing
goods which were being returned to Nyetimber.
>
> This was not a case of parking for convenience. The vehicle
was stopped solely to facilitate the safe unloading of goods,
and it departed immediately once the operation had been
completed.
>
> Background to the return
>
> Prior to the delivery, I contacted Nyetimber to establish the
correct process and location for returning the goods.
>
> Nyetimber confirmed that I could return the items myself to
their offices at:
>
> Nyetimber
> Astiсus Building
> 21 Palmer Street
> London
> SW1H 0AD
>
> Nyetimber advised that:
>
> "The bottles will need to be returned in pristine original
condition. If any damage occurs during return transit, including
cosmetic damage to the bottles, labels, foil, shield, or gift
boxes - even if the boxes themselves are unopened, we may be
unable to accept the return."
>
> This was therefore not a routine delivery. The goods consisted
of approximately ten boxes of high value items, and Nyetimber
had specifically advised that any damage occurring during the
return process could result in the return being refused.
>
> Before arriving, I had no way of knowing whether a trolley
would be available within the building. I therefore stopped as
close as reasonably possible to the entrance to minimise the
distance the boxes would need to be carried manually if no
trolley was available, reducing unnecessary handling and the
risk of damage.
>
> Chronology of the unloading operation
>
> Upon arrival, I immediately entered the building to establish
the arrangements for safely completing the return.
>
> The building manager/receptionist informed me that Nyetimber
had a trolley available and advised that I needed to collect it
from the seventh floor.
>
> I proceeded directly to the seventh floor, collected the
trolley, returned directly to my vehicle, transferred all of the
boxes onto the trolley, secured the vehicle, and immediately
transported the goods into the building.
>
> The goods were then taken directly to Nyetimber's
seventh-floor office using the building's lifts and handed over
to the appropriate recipient.
>
> Given both the value of the goods and Nyetimber's express
instructions regarding their condition, it would not have been
appropriate to leave the boxes unattended in a reception area or
communal lobby.
>
> Following the handover, I took photographs of the boxes inside
Nyetimber's office as evidence that the return had been
successfully completed. I then returned immediately to my
vehicle and departed.
>
> At no stage was the vehicle left while I undertook any
unrelated activity. Every action undertaken (entering the
building, obtaining the trolley, transporting the goods,
completing the handover, documenting the delivery and returning
to the vehicle) formed part of one continuous unloading
operation.
>
> Evidence of the continuous unloading operation
>
> The PCN records that the vehicle was first seen and the
Penalty Charge Notice was issued at:
>
> 11:45 on Wednesday 15 July 2026.
>
> The Civil Enforcement Officer's photographs show only that the
vehicle was unattended at street level. However, that is
entirely consistent with a genuine unloading operation of this
nature.
>
> The unloading process required me to leave the vehicle
temporarily because I was required to transport approximately
ten boxes into the building, collect and use a trolley, and
deliver the goods to Nyetimber's seventh-floor office.
>
> My photographs taken during the delivery show the returned
goods inside Nyetimber's seventh-floor office at 11:45am, the
same minute that the PCN records the vehicle as first seen.
>
> These photographs provide direct evidence that the unloading
operation was actively taking place at the time of the alleged
contravention. The fact that the vehicle was unattended does not
indicate that it was parked; it was unattended because I was
carrying out the necessary steps to complete the unloading
operation.
>
> The CEO's observations were therefore limited to the vehicle's
location and could not capture the exempt loading activity
taking place inside the building.
>
> Why the duration was reasonable
>
> The vehicle remained stationary only for the minimum period
reasonably necessary to complete the unloading operation.
>
> The time required was directly attributable to:
>
> locating the recipient and establishing the return
arrangements;
> collecting the trolley from the seventh floor;
> transferring approximately ten boxes from the vehicle onto the
trolley;
> transporting the goods by lift to the seventh-floor office;
> completing the handover;
> recording evidence of delivery; and
> returning directly to the vehicle.
>
> No part of this period involved any unrelated activity.
>
> Evidence enclosed
>
> I enclose the following evidence in support of these
representations:
>
> Photographs showing the returned boxes inside Nyetimber's
seventh-floor office, including timestamps.
> Email correspondence with Nyetimber confirming the return
address and arrangements.
> Nyetimber's instructions regarding the requirement for the
goods to be returned in pristine condition.
>
> This evidence demonstrates that the vehicle was stopped solely
for the purpose of a genuine unloading operation and remained
stationary for no longer than was reasonably necessary.
>
> In the circumstances, I respectfully request that the Penalty
Charge Notice be cancelled.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 125199--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 01 Parked in restricted street -
Palmer Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 20, 2026, 10:19 am
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It's rather too long for an informal challenge. Establishing
loading is all you need to do to claim the exemption. See if you
can cut it down by a half.
It's an informal challenge at this stage.
#Post#: 125202--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 01 Parked in restricted street -
Palmer Street
DIR By: jays86
Date: July 20, 2026, 10:31 am
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Sorry, how about this for a condensed version?
--- Quote ---
> I am making formal representations against this Penalty Charge
Notice on the basis that my vehicle was engaged in a continuous,
permitted unloading operation. The vehicle was stopped briefly
to return ten boxes of fragile, high-value goods to the
Nyetimber offices at the Asticus Building, 21 Palmer Street. As
Nyetimber had explicitly required the bottles to be returned in
pristine condition and advised that damage could result in the
return being refused, it was practically necessary to stop as
close to the building as possible to minimise handling and the
risk of damage.
>
> The entire delivery process was rapid and uninterrupted. Upon
arrival, I entered the building and was advised that Nyetimber
had a trolley available on the 7th floor. I collected the
trolley as instructed, returned immediately to the vehicle to
load the boxes, and transported them directly back to the office
for handover. The PCN records the vehicle as first seen and
issued at 11:45 on 15 July 2026; my enclosed photographs show
the goods safely inside the 7th-floor office at approximately
this same time, demonstrating that the vehicle was unattended
only because I was completing this active unloading operation
inside the building.
>
> I enclose photographs of the completed delivery alongside the
prior correspondence confirming the return arrangements. As the
vehicle was being used solely for a genuine and continuous
unloading operation, I respectfully request that this Penalty
Charge Notice be cancelled.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 125213--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 01 Parked in restricted street -
Palmer Street
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 20, 2026, 12:40 pm
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With my doom and gloom persona(!), why can't you get something
from Nyetimber to corroborate your account given that Nyetimber
had explicitly required the bottles to be returned in pristine
condition and advised that damage could result in the return
being refused, which surely must mean that they received the
load in good condition!
And the photo of the trolley and load has no date stamp and
they're not formal reps, they're informal.
#Post#: 125220--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 01 Parked in restricted street -
Palmer Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 20, 2026, 1:46 pm
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Change the start to:
I am challenging this Penalty Charge Notice on the basis...
Add in brackets after 'fragile, high-value goods' '([type of]
bottles)' as the goods become bottles with no explanation.
I really wouldn't worry about getting a witness statement at
this stage. This is a solid case.
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