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       London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 14, 2026, 1:34 pm
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       Doing this for a friend but will be grateful for any advice as
       this area is not fully in my DNA yet!
       This was at Tesco, Cox Lane, Chessington.
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       From my research it would seem that this is served out of time?
       Received last Saturday. Plus another error re time parked not
       given?
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: July 15, 2026, 2:07 am
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       Yes, it needs to arrive or be deemed to arive by 4/7, so if
       dated 7/7 it clearly can’t.
       Presumably the first PCN issued and the V5C is correct so it
       wasn’t sent somewhere else first. Usually they don’t bother
       checking anyway.
       They print the usual rubbish about “we may recover from you, the
       keeper, on the assumption that you were the driver” and whilst
       they can assume what they like, this assumption has no legal
       force because of the PoFA 2012 failure.
       An appeal will probably lead to a rejection, followed by a
       rejection at the IAS, followed by a county court claim. I’m not
       sure how much history exists on the forum for London Parking
       Solutions, but many cases get discontinued if defended prior to
       the claimant having to pay the court fee. In particular, they
       seem to engage DCB Legal who almost always discontinue, but warn
       your friend that whilst the begging letters from DCBL can be
       ignored, DCB Legal and its Letter of Claim should be responded
       to. And that the driver should never be identified, and that no
       telephone calls should be made or accepted.
       Plus no “period of parking” as you also note. So a simple
       defence based on this and the issue date will suffice in due
       course.
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 15, 2026, 4:09 am
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       [member=636]jfollows[/member] Many thanks.
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: July 15, 2026, 4:53 am
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       An obvious point, that you're probably experienced enough to be
       aware of, but your friend could also approach the management of
       Tesco, assuming the driver of their car was a customer.
       Anecdotally, supermarkets are better than most at intervening on
       behalf of customers.
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 15, 2026, 9:21 am
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
       >
       > An obvious point, that you're probably experienced enough to
       be aware of, but your friend could also approach the management
       of Tesco, assuming the driver of their car was a customer.
       Anecdotally, supermarkets are better than most at intervening on
       behalf of customers.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually not a good idea as the manager has lost 100s of pounds
       re several tickets in court and one member of staff told him he
       could park there where he did. I am familiar with the tactic.
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: July 15, 2026, 9:33 am
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       OK, so if you follow and stay on top of the court process, it
       goes roughly like:
       Letter of Claim, respond denying the claim and why in summary
       N1SDT county court claim form, file optional Acknowledgment of
       Service (probably not necessary in this case) followed by
       defence, keep a watch on the deadlines for these. 14+5 days from
       the date on the N1SDT if just filing a defence.
       Directions Questionnaire, N180, nominating defendant’s local
       court and a hearing in person. Instructions for its completion
       here if you search, can be sent by email and should include the
       claimant on copy.
       Mandatory mediation session at which £0 is offered.
       Attempts by DCB Legal to call which should be blocked/ignored.
       Allocation to local court with dates and deadlines. Hopefully
       (not always) the payment deadline precedes the deadline for
       submission of papers.
       Claimant discontinues rather than pay the court fee.
       DCB Legal, and others, initiate county court claims in the
       knowledge that these either result in payment or a judgement in
       default because the defendant ignores them. Those that are
       defended properly aren’t worth their while pursuing.
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 15, 2026, 9:48 am
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       Done:
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       This is more fun than writing pre-action letters to councils in
       London and following them through. 8)
       If things get nasty, I am sure Mr Fagelson will assist.  ;) As
       well as you experts too, of course!
       #Post#: 125316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 21, 2026, 2:28 pm
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       Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge.
       Having noted your comments, and checking the evidence gathered
       when issuing the Parking Charge, we are satisfied that the
       Parking Charge has been issued correctly and your appeal is
       rejected for the reason(s) detailed below: We have carefully
       considered the points you have raised but are unable to cancel
       the Parking Charge. When submitting an appeal, motorists are
       asked to confirm whether they are appealing as the driver or the
       keeper of the vehicle. In your appeal, you
       confirmed that you were the driver. As a result, we have
       considered your representations on that basis. Your appeal
       relies on the provisions of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.
       However, this Parking Charge was not issued under those
       provisions and
       liability is not being pursued on that basis. The correspondence
       issued clearly states that it is a non-POFA Parking Charge. As
       you have confirmed that
       you were the driver, your comments regarding the timescales for
       correspondence and the requirements of Schedule 4 of the
       Protection of Freedoms Act
       2012 are not applicable to this case. The Parking Charge was
       issued because the vehicle was parked without a valid virtual
       permit in accordance with the terms and conditions displayed at
       the site. Having reviewed the available evidence, we are
       satisfied that the Parking Charge was issued correctly and it
       therefore remains payable. We now require payment of the parking
       charge to be made within 28 days of this letter. The parking
       charge is £100.00; however, as your appeal was
       received within the initial 14-day period, a reduced amount of
       £60.00 will be accepted if paid within 14 days from the date of
       this letter. If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are
       entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS). In
       order to appeal, you will need your Parking Charge number and
       your vehicle registration. Appeals must be submitted to the IAS
       within 28 days of the date of this letter. Please visit
       www.theias.org for full details.
       Thoughts please
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       Re: London Parking Solutions
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: July 21, 2026, 2:34 pm
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       Did the appeal confirm the identity of the driver, as claimed?
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