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Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of stay -
East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: rory-09
Date: July 14, 2026, 6:37 am
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Hi,
The driver briefly parked while a second person went to a shop
from the car, then returned. The driver did not pay for this
short stop. I do not remember when I, the registered keeper,
received a PCN through the post.
Please find all received documentation included.
I am now wondering how to proceed with this.
Thank you.
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 14, 2026, 7:39 am
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I’m just copying a reply I just posted to you on a similar
thread:
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> East Kilbride is in Scotland.
>
> If the registered keeper is also resident in Scotland, then
ensure that the driver is not identified, because there is no
legal way to transfer liability from the driver to the
registered keeper. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 does not
apply in Scotland.
>
> If all this is the case, the normal advice is to “appeal” as
the registered keeper stating that the driver has not been
identified and will not be identified, and therefore registered
keeper can not be held liable and therefore will not be paying
their invoice on behalf of the driver. They will doubtless deny
the “appeal” and waffle on about the driver being able to use
POPLA, but this should be ignored, as should all letters from
debt collectors. It’s unlikely that a formal Letter of
Intimation will be issued by a solicitor but, even if it is, it
won’t result in a successful prosecution. As long as the driver
is not identified.
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: rory-09
Date: July 14, 2026, 8:07 am
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In this case, is the appeal sent to the DCBL?
Also, is it reasonable to appeal both tickets at the same time
as they are both addressed to me, the keeper?
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 14, 2026, 8:10 am
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--- Quote from: rory-09 link ---
>
> In this case, is the appeal sent to the DCBL?
>
> Also, is it reasonable to appeal both tickets at the same time
as they are both addressed to me, the keeper?
>
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No, and No.
You appeal to the operator. If they say you’ve missed their
appeal deadline, you don’t bother. Do not engage with DCBL in
any way. Be aware that DCB Legal is not to be ignored, it’s not
the same firm.
Send separate appeals for separate notices, as appropriate.
Don’t combine one appeal for two notices, even if the wording is
identical.
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: rory-09
Date: July 14, 2026, 8:19 am
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In this case then it is Horizon? Sorry I am unaware of a lot of
this.
In both cases DCB Ltd have said "You are no longer able to
appeal this parking charge". So does this mean I should wait to
see if they press further?
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 14, 2026, 8:26 am
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Horizon is the operator who sent the original PCN. Issued 6
April 2025 for a “breach” on 24 February 2025. In England this
would be too late to transfer liability. In Scotland it’s not
possible to do so anyway. The PCN gave you a limited time to
appeal after 6 April 2025 which has long passed.
You could have replied to Horizon when you received the PCN in
2025. Did you receive it and ignore it, or did you not receive
it? In any case, we are where we are.
DCBL has no power whatsoever, and uses red ink to frighten you
into paying.
Ignore DCBL but not anything from DCB Legal in future. They will
likely bluster and threaten and use red ink but they have no
legal basis for pursuing you, the registered keeper, if the
driver has not been identified.
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: rory-09
Date: July 14, 2026, 8:38 am
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I received and ignored the letters based on some other advice
(before finding out about this forum just the other day).
I will continue to ignore DCBL as seems to be the common advice.
If there is no legal basis for them to pursue the keeper, is it
likely this will go anywhere? Is the only point I should respond
to anything if it is DCB Legal, or a letter of intent/claim?
Thank you for your advice and prompt responses.
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Re: Horizon Parking PCN - Failure to pay for full duration of
stay - East Kilbride Shopping Centre
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 14, 2026, 8:48 am
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You had poor advice but it doesn’t matter, and you should always
ignore debt collectors such as DCBL. Current advice is that you
should always engage with a NtK, even if it’s to
contest/deny/appeal it.
Come back if you get a Letter of Intimation (I think that’s what
it is in Scotland) or indeed anything from DCB Legal. You may or
you may not. As long as you don’t identify the driver, they have
no ability to make the registered keeper liable.
Debt collectors have no power, are not party to any claim, and
are only on commission for extracting money from people by
sending threatening letters with increasing amounts of red ink.
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