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#Post#: 124822--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 15, 2026, 11:58 am
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Please stop calling it a Disabled......, I find it confusing.
It's a parking place reserved to a specific user, namely the
holder(s) of permit ***. As such, para. 11 of the ********Order
applies.
Given this, the authority's reasoning for rejecting my
representations is at odds with the Order's provisions which
specifically allow conditional loading, namely:
**paste 11(1) (a), (g) and (h)
I invite the authority to reconsider its position before it is
necessary for me to formalise the above in representations
against a Notice to Owner.
#Post#: 124825--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 15, 2026, 12:19 pm
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OP - do you have a NTO. If so what is its date.
I would start reps with:
The contravention did not occur as I was engaged in the exempt
activity of loading.
In your rejection of my initial challenge you said:
and then shorten it in line with tincombe.
#Post#: 124826--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: LondonTraveller84
Date: July 15, 2026, 12:36 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> OP - do you have a NTO. If so what is its date.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes it's dated 18/06/2026. I can attach here if required.
--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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> Please stop calling it a Disabled......, I find it confusing
>
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Sorry, thought i'd be specific in case the council try and be
smart, what you've said makes more sense.
I'll use your structure/template, and the bulk of my reply where
i was having a go, and reword the last bit to
I invite the authority to reconsider its position before it is
necessary for me to formalise the above in representations
during ajudication.
#Post#: 124830--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 15, 2026, 12:58 pm
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Get something in as you are approaching deadline.
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Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 15, 2026, 1:10 pm
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++1.
NTO dated 18 June, last day of 28-day period is 19th July.
#Post#: 124856--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: LondonTraveller84
Date: July 15, 2026, 5:01 pm
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I've sent my formal appeal using the advice given, will keep you
guys posted
#Post#: 126597--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: LondonTraveller84
Date: August 2, 2026, 1:15 pm
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Hi Guys,
Received a NOR, seems like they've ignored the TMO and their
focus is that the warden did not see us loading hence the
ticket, even though we've provided evidence showing the table
coupled with the fact we even went to the warden shocked, to let
him know the situation and that we had to go get the table.
Not sure what else i can add to my case for adjudication, other
than hihglight why the warden would not have seen us, but that
this doesn't discount the fact that we were still loading.
I understand with a loading bay you may have to remain with the
car at all times or close, so your visible to the warden, I see
no such requirements in the TMO for loading/unloading on a
disabled bay.
Attached NOR:
HTML https://ibb.co/wNxztf5F
HTML https://ibb.co/hFSYFGwN
HTML https://ibb.co/QjFSXsr1
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Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 2, 2026, 4:34 pm
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God, what tosh ! However, they don't say you cannot load in
these bays, but must establish a exemption. The CEO saw you at
the time for heavens sake, and you told him you were loading !!
There is no requirement in law or the regulations for loading to
be attended all the time. But of course, this is the usual
Fob-Off letter we see so often. If it were me, I'd be taking
them to London Tribunals, if the TMO permits loading in these
bays for disabled permit holders. Of course if it doesn't, pay
the discount.
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Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: LondonTraveller84
Date: August 2, 2026, 4:45 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> If the TMO permits loading in these bays for disabled permit
holders
>
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The exemption in the TMO from my understanding is that a any
vehicle can load/unload without having a disabled permit or in
fact any permit.
I do not have a disabled permit holder, only a permit for that
zone, that would allow the car to be parked anywhere on that
road, expect a disabled resident bay.,
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Re: Contravention 165 - Disabled Bay
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 2, 2026, 5:27 pm
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It's a nonsensical rejection as it acknowledges your reps but
then ignores the claimed exemption. They imply but do not state
it doesn't apply but that isn't good enough.
I think you are in solid grounds going for the appeal but wait
for others.
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