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MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: concoj
Date: December 22, 2023, 7:11 am
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PLease help
Contravention code 34J
I never got the PCN notice for £65 instead I have been served
with a £130 pcn notice.
Im so stupid and don't know why I didn't check that
Too many signs? or maybe red pavement bus lane missing? I don't
know
Perhaps nothing we can do or maybe is a chance to fight as the
first letter never arrived or posted?
I sound desperate, I know... two penalties just before Christmas
isn't good news
Thank you to every one in here for your time and expertise.
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 22, 2023, 8:11 am
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We've seen this one before ! Looking at GSV, there have been a
few minor signage changes, but where you got the idea of it
needing red tarmac, I don't know ! There's nothing like that in
the regulations.
If you do a search of the London Tribunals statutory register on
Mitchell Way from 1st Jan 2021, there have been 21
adjudications, most of them unsuccessful. There was an issue
with camera approvals until quite recently but I think that has
now been dealt with. I'm afraid the likelihood of a successful
appeal is low, in my opinion.
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: concoj
Date: December 22, 2023, 9:07 am
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thanks incas.
Anything about the 1st missing letter. Should I had been given a
chance to pay the pcn for £65 and not rigth away the humungous
£130?
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 22, 2023, 1:48 pm
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--- Quote from: concoj link ---
>
> thanks incas.
>
> Anything about the 1st missing letter. Should I had been given
a chance to pay the pcn for £65 and not rigth away the humungous
£130?
>
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Yes, submit representations stating you found the layout and
signage confusing, but was surprised to not receive the original
PCN, so have been denied the opportunity to pay at the
discounted rate. Request that they re-offer it.
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 22, 2023, 5:46 pm
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--- Quote from: concoj link ---
>
> thanks incas.
>
> Anything about the 1st missing letter. Should I had been given
a chance to pay the pcn for £65 and not rigth away the humungous
£130?
>
--- End Quote ---
No PCNs?
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 22, 2023, 5:57 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> [quote author=concoj link=topic=1143.msg12816#msg12816
date=1703257661]
> thanks incas.
>
> Anything about the 1st missing letter. Should I had been given
a chance to pay the pcn for £65 and not rigth away the humungous
£130?
>
--- End Quote ---
No PCNs?
[/quote]
OP seems to have only received the Enforcement Notice, and he
posted this.
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 23, 2023, 6:11 am
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I see only page 1.
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 23, 2023, 12:13 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> I see only page 1.
>
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Ah, right !
OP, can you please post-up all sides of the Enforcement Notice
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: concoj
Date: December 24, 2023, 7:03 am
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Sure thing
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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 24, 2023, 7:14 am
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The last ground clearly fetters/limits to theft.
I further bring a collateral challenge on the basis that the PCN
is unenforceable because the taken without consent ground
clearly fetters to theft by its very wording that a crime report
be provided. Therefore, this inaccurate reflection of the
statutory ground does not take into account that a relative, or
friend, may have taken the vehicle without the owner's
permission so that the owner would not necessarily, if at all,
report the matter to the Police in such circumstances.
If you want me to be really pedantic, you could also add that
the Enforcement Notice does not include the ground that the
Police are taking action; but, the legislation is an ass as
this ground is not mandated to appear on either the PCN or EN.
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