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#Post#: 124297--------------------------------------------------
Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: AzZ
Date: July 10, 2026, 9:33 am
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Hi
I received a PCN the other day for parking in a residential
street which has been fine previously. I was very surprised to
see a PCN when I came back to the car. I only noticed the signs
on the lamppost afterwards.
I've been looking into this and I'm questioning if the PCN is
actually enforceable. There are no lines accompanying the no
waiting sign. As far as I'm aware the street is not within a CPZ
or RPZ. There was no signage indicating it is within any type of
zone.
What is the legislation regarding signs with no line markings? I
know urban clearways don’t require lines but this
isn’t the case for where I parked. I don't believe it's
council land either as they’ve used code 01 which applies
to public land.
My final observations is something which I found whilst
searching around:
St Simon Street - Temporary No Waiting At Any Time Order;
HTML https://publicnoticeportal.uk/notice/traffic-and-roads/6a16adf4bf03947042406b39
Now if that is the case has this been correctly notified? How
would I even know it was in force? There is no info about how
long this temporary restriction is in place for, or the times it
is in force. I also read something about TTRO's having to meet
strict rules such as cones being placed and temporary signage-
unlike the metal fixed plate in this case.
I need some advice from more experienced members before I submit
any appeal.
It seems Salford council don’t provide photographic
evidence of the alleged contravention so it's a good thing I
took my own photos. Everything below:
Google street view:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/28wrMLiB7CgeuySx5
HTML https://x02.me/i/RERPJP.jpg
HTML https://x02.me/i/BTJKNC.jpg
HTML https://x02.me/i/862KG.jpg
HTML https://x02.me/i/RC47E.jpg
HTML https://x02.me/i/T99V2Q.jpeg
Any input on this case would be appreciated.
#Post#: 124306--------------------------------------------------
Re: Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 10, 2026, 10:25 am
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We've seen similar woeful implementations of a supposed TTRO.
Pics may show up on
HTML https://viewmypcn.co.uk
as I've entered the
details there.
We do need to see their pics.
#Post#: 124331--------------------------------------------------
Re: Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 10, 2026, 1:11 pm
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YOu would seem to have shown us a sign that is a repeater sign
for some sort of parking zone. The signs for this will be an the
entrances to the zone.
Looking at GSV, which is March 2025, there are no zone or other
signs, so what we need to see is what is at the sole entrance to
St Simon St off Blackfriars Road.
Just putting up a sign as you have shown is not permitted unless
part of a zone. The sign indicates "No Waiting" 24x7, so where
are the double-yellow lines ? Needless to say, with most people
totally ignorant of parknig law, they'll get their money from
others, hopefully not you if you follow our advice.
#Post#: 124376--------------------------------------------------
Re: Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: AzZ
Date: July 11, 2026, 5:02 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> We've seen similar woeful implementations of a supposed TTRO.
>
> Pics may show up on
HTML https://viewmypcn.co.uk
as I've entered
the details there.
>
> We do need to see their pics.
>
--- End Quote ---
I have requested them so I will post them once they're available
--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> YOu would seem to have shown us a sign that is a repeater sign
for some sort of parking zone. The signs for this will be an the
entrances to the zone.
> Looking at GSV, which is March 2025, there are no zone or
other signs, so what we need to see is what is at the sole
entrance to St Simon St off Blackfriars Road.
>
> Just putting up a sign as you have shown is not permitted
unless part of a zone. The sign indicates "No Waiting" 24x7, so
where are the double-yellow lines ? Needless to say, with most
people totally ignorant of parknig law, they'll get their money
from others, hopefully not you if you follow our advice.
>
--- End Quote ---
It's not within any CPZ or RPZ. I went back the same day to
check if it's in any type of zone. The only sign on entry to St
Simon street from Blackfriars is a dead end sign. The changes on
the road today compared to GSV are that all the cars parked
along the left side of the road (next to the playing fields)
before the residential bit, is all double yellow lines now.
The link I posted in my first post talks about a TTRO. This may
be why they think they can issue a PCN.
#Post#: 124402--------------------------------------------------
Re: Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 11, 2026, 2:15 pm
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So where you parked now has double-yellow lines that were not
there when you parked ? Sounds like yet another council cock-up.
No signs are required for double-yellow lines, so the sign you
showed us has no meaning whatsoever.
#Post#: 124444--------------------------------------------------
Re: Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: AzZ
Date: July 12, 2026, 1:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> So where you parked now has double-yellow lines that were not
there when you parked ? Sounds like yet another council ****-up.
No signs are required for double-yellow lines, so the sign you
showed us has no meaning whatsoever.
>
--- End Quote ---
No, where I parked is as is- no lines. From the GSV images from
2025 they have since put down double yellow lines on the left
side of St. Simon Street which finish just before the
residential bit.
Still no images on the viewmypcn website.
#Post#: 124448--------------------------------------------------
Re: Salford: code 01 parked in a restricted street, St Simon
Street, no yellow line
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 12, 2026, 1:44 pm
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With GSV being out-of-date, I suggest you take two photos, one
for the side you parked showing no yellow lines, and one for the
opposite side showing the yellow lines
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