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School streets
DIR By: Korting
Date: July 10, 2026, 4:14 am
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Last Monday (6th July) I asked Brent for the statistics on
school streets, I asked about poor signage. I also asked for
signs to be made lower.
Their response was that the signs comply with the legislation.
I wrote an article for the local newspaper
HTML https://ibb.co/8hp4KCQ
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Re: School streets
DIR By: TV_Geek
Date: July 19, 2026, 11:21 am
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Is there a correlation between sign height or angle to the road
and the number of tickets?
The article doesn’t say there is.
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Re: School streets
DIR By: Korting
Date: July 21, 2026, 2:04 am
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--- Quote from: TV_Geek link ---
>
> Is there a correlation between sign height or angle to the
road and the number of tickets?
> The article doesn’t say there is.
>
--- End Quote ---
It’s difficult to say, there are signs on approaching roads but
they too are high up.
Unlike parking signs where you can stop and read them, you can’t
do that with school streets as the vehicle will be moving.
However I’ve now had a response from the lead member:
[quote=]
I have spoken to Officers about the feasibility of your
proposal. My understanding is that Brent has no plans to
introduce additional physical features, such as planters or
bollards, at the entrances to all School Streets. Whilst these
treatments may be appropriate in some locations, they are not
suitable for every site. Physical features can reduce the
available carriageway width, create additional maintenance
liabilities, affect access for larger vehicles and emergency
services, and may not be compatible with the layout or
operational requirements of all streets.
You will also see from Wandsworth's detailed design drawing that
the planter is an additional gateway feature; it does not
replace the statutory TSRGD signing requirements or the
prescribed mounting heights for regulatory signs. The regulatory
signs remain in place and continue to display the same
information, including any applicable exemptions.
Wandsworth's scheme drawing can be viewed here:
HTML https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/media/8230/sacred_heart_map_of_scheme.pdf
Brent's School Street signage is fully compliant with the
Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions (TSRGD). In
addition to the statutory requirements, we have installed
advance warning signs for all our School Streets to provide
motorists with additional notice of the restrictions.
We meet regularly with our appeals team to review Penalty Charge
Notice (PCN) appeals. Where appropriate, we assess whether any
additional measures, including further advance warning signs,
would improve driver awareness and compliance.
Brent will continue to monitor compliance across its School
Streets, review the effectiveness of its signage, and install
additional advance warning signs where there is evidence that
they would improve driver awareness and compliance. [/quote]
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Re: School streets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 21, 2026, 7:07 am
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They say all the signs are compliant with the TSRGD, but they
have another set of regulations to follow that councils always
seem curiosly reluctant to mention, the The Local Authorities’
Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996.
In particular, Regulation 18
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18
which puts a duty of placement of traffic signs that the council
consider to adequately convey the restriction to motorists. It
is possible to argue that 'adequate' signage has not been
installed.
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