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#Post#: 13430--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: Nosy Parker
Date: January 7, 2024, 5:07 pm
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This time you've published your wife's name! Please delete the
uploaded document, redact it properly and re-post. Your wife
can now lodge an appeal within the 28 day deadline and get the
charge cancelled:
I appeal as hirer. I am not obliged to identify the driver and
I decline to do so.
Your purported notice to hirer is not effective to transfer the
driver's liability (if any) to me because you have not complied
with the mandatory provisions for notices to hirers set out in
Paragraph 14 of Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act
2012 ("POFA").
In particular (and without limitation):
[1.
sub-paragraph 14.(2)(a) POFA to include with the PCN a copy of
the documents mentioned in POFA paragraph 13(2) and the relevant
notice to keeper;]*
2.
the PCN as required by sub-paragraph 14.(5)(a);
3.
to be included pursuant to POFA sub-paragraph 14.(5)(b);
4.
included pursuant to POFA sub-paragraph 14.(5)(c);
Any one of the above failures to comply with POFA is alone
sufficient to prevent transfer of liability to me as hirer and I
therefore requires you to cancel the charge or to issue a POPLA
code so that POPLA can order you to cancel it.
* Delete 1 and renumber if the required documents were enclosed
for a change (I have never seen a case in which this happened).
The other POFA failures are sufficient anyway
#Post#: 13431--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 7, 2024, 5:08 pm
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--- Quote from: Nosy Parker link ---
>
> This time you've published your wife's name! Please delete
the uploaded document, redact it properly and re-post.
>
--- End Quote ---
Have removed for the OP.
#Post#: 13489--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: January 8, 2024, 3:40 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> [quote author=Nosy Parker link=topic=1134.msg13430#msg13430
date=1704668825]
> This time you've published your wife's name! Please delete
the uploaded document, redact it properly and re-post.
>
--- End Quote ---
Have removed for the OP.
[/quote]
--- Quote from: Nosy Parker link ---
>
> This time you've published your wife's name! Please delete
the uploaded document, redact it properly and re-post. Your
wife can now lodge an appeal within the 28 day deadline and get
the charge cancelled:
>
> I appeal as hirer. I am not obliged to identify the driver
and I decline to do so.
>
> Your purported notice to hirer is not effective to transfer
the driver's liability (if any) to me because you have not
complied with the mandatory provisions for notices to hirers set
out in Paragraph 14 of Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms
Act 2012 ("POFA").
>
> In particular (and without limitation):
>
> [1.
sub-paragraph 14.(2)(a) POFA to include with the PCN a copy of
the documents mentioned in POFA paragraph 13(2) and the relevant
notice to keeper;]*
>
> 2.
the PCN as required by sub-paragraph 14.(5)(a);
>
> 3.
to be included pursuant to POFA sub-paragraph 14.(5)(b);
>
> 4.
included pursuant to POFA sub-paragraph 14.(5)(c);
>
> Any one of the above failures to comply with POFA is alone
sufficient to prevent transfer of liability to me as hirer and I
therefore requires you to cancel the charge or to issue a POPLA
code so that POPLA can order you to cancel it.
>
> * Delete 1 and renumber if the required documents were
enclosed for a change (I have never seen a case in which this
happened). The other POFA failures are sufficient anyway
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Many Thanks - Will ensure I'll post when I'm a little less
tired.
#Post#: 14423--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: January 27, 2024, 4:19 pm
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Thank you all for your help thus far. Wow this company is
relentless! They've rejected the appeal-the discounted payment
rate expires on 01 February. Please can you help.
Thanks
#Post#: 14426--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: Nosy Parker
Date: January 27, 2024, 5:41 pm
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Enough is enough! Time for some tough love. If you want any
more advice, delete that rejection notice showing your wife’s
name, the PCN number and POPLA code and try again …
#Post#: 14427--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: b789
Date: January 27, 2024, 6:00 pm
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@challenge_cheaters, if you don't redact the PCN number and the
POPLA code, anyone can log in as you and screw you very badly.
This PCN is easily defeated at POPLA if you follow the guidance
that you will receive... as long as someone hasn't logged in
with your details and done the damage.
#Post#: 14455--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: January 28, 2024, 11:40 am
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Apologies for the mix-ups and thanks for the tough love :-).
They've declined my appeal. Please see attached. Thanks
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/LgB0N9K1/Scanned-Document-2024-01-27-at-21-58-43.png
HTML https://postimg.cc/LgB0N9K1
#Post#: 14462--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: b789
Date: January 28, 2024, 12:17 pm
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A POPLA decision is not binding. You now need to wait until
if/when the PPC decides to make a county court claim for the
alleged debt.
Ignore everything except an LoC/LBC or an actual claim and then
come back.
#Post#: 14478--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 28, 2024, 3:01 pm
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> A POPLA decision is not binding. You now need to wait until
if/when the PPC decides to make a county court claim for the
alleged debt.
>
> Ignore everything except an LoC/LBC or an actual claim and
then come back.
>
--- End Quote ---
He's not had a POPLA decision yet, just a rejection from the
parking company!
Time to start writing your POPLA appeal.
#Post#: 14520--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for parking in Golf centre (but received late)
DIR By: challenge_cheaters
Date: January 29, 2024, 7:20 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> [quote author=b789 link=topic=1134.msg14462#msg14462
date=1706465832]
> A POPLA decision is not binding. You now need to wait until
if/when the PPC decides to make a county court claim for the
alleged debt.
>
> Ignore everything except an LoC/LBC or an actual claim and
then come back.
>
--- End Quote ---
He's not had a POPLA decision yet, just a rejection from the
parking company!
Time to start writing your POPLA appeal.
[/quote]
Do you know by when I would need to submit the appeal? Any help
with wording would be much appreciated. Thanks
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