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       #Post#: 123603--------------------------------------------------
       Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not aware.
   DIR By: WavyHus
       Date: July 2, 2026, 10:50 am
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       Situation:
       Got license 23 nov 2023
       Got 6 points 8 nov 2025 at a traffic stop
       I could not remember exact date, but I passed test around
       September / October so
       Informed the officer I was just at 2 years
       He said ok that’s fine buy insurance in front of me and il let
       you drive
       I had changed address in late September 2025 - not updated DVLA
       at that point, informed office
       I believed everything was ok
       I gave the officer my new address
       He sent the fines to my new address
       I paid fine letters on my new address
       Did not receive letter saying license revoked and was not
       concerned as I believed it had been two years and the officer
       let me drive as well
       Got 3 points 28/5/2026. Tried to pay found out I couldn’t
       because I don’t have a license
       Now I’m panicked as I realise I’ve been driving illegally
       And I have 20 days to accept the 3 points
       What can I do?
       #Post#: 123605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: July 2, 2026, 11:05 am
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       If that's an attempt at a haiku, you might want to read up on
       the rules of haiku.
       The first part of your tale of woe is that your licence was
       revoked by the DVLA under the Road Traffic (New Drivers) Act
       1995 for reaching 6 relevant points during your probationary
       period. The irrelevant "he said, she said" is, as you might now
       realise, irrelevant, at least to the extent that it is
       comprehensible.
       Quite how you managed to get 3 points yet were unable to pay for
       the privilege is either somewhat unfathomable, or perhaps more
       likely that providing accurate and meaningful information to
       those you are hoping will give up their free time to advise you
       sounds like a lot of unnecessary hassle.
       Perhaps you could tell us what actually happened? We could
       probably waste even more time playing guessing games, but I'm
       going to say no.
       #Post#: 123607--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: WavyHus
       Date: July 2, 2026, 11:12 am
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       Firstly, I appreciate you taking the time to help, if my text
       was difficult to understand or not well written I apologise.
       The "he say, she say" was to highlight what caused the nuanced
       confusion and led me to believe everything was ok. Because the
       officer told me if I bought the insurance, he will let me go +6
       points and a fine.
       I got the 6 points for driving without insurance. Which was
       entirely my fault. I took full accountability when stopped and
       have not made such a mistake since.
       I received the 3 points letter a few days ago for driving 36mph
       in a 30mph zone. When I accepted liability, a conditional offer
       of 3 points + £100 was made.
       When I accepted the offer and went to pay it would not accept my
       license number, which surprised me, and I asked my friends who
       are more passionate about cars, they asked me to check if my
       license was valid with the DVLA. I checked and sure enough since
       the date of the traffic stop, it had been revoked, and as
       highlighted in my original message, I was not aware of this.
       Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
       #Post#: 123609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: WavyHus
       Date: July 2, 2026, 11:16 am
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       Where can I read the Haiku rule? I don't understand that
       #Post#: 123616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: July 2, 2026, 12:07 pm
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       To cut your long story short, you will now be prosecuted in
       court for the speeding offence.
       More importantly, you should stop driving immediately until you
       have applied for, and received  a new provisional licence. You
       can then begin driving – as a provisional licence holder – as
       soon as you have it and can apply to take your test (both parts)
       again.
       It will be for the police to decide whether to prosecute you for
       driving without a licence. You will see three points imposed for
       the speeding offence but no more if you are convicted of driving
       without a licence (as the offences were committed “on the same
       occasion”).
       However, with nine points accumulated in such a short time, and
       a recently acquired provisional licence, you may find insurance
       a little expensive.
       Bear in mind that unlike a “totting up” ban, revocation of your
       licence does not reduce your points to zero. Points remain
       “active” for totting up purposes for three years from the date
       of the offence. If you reach twelve points within three years
       (again based on offence dates) you will be liable to a six month
       disqualification.
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       #Post#: 123618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: WavyHus
       Date: July 2, 2026, 12:14 pm
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       Thank you for informing me. What is the best and worst possible
       outcome from this, could I face jail time? Will the police be
       understanding of the circumstances albeit the original 6 points
       were obviously negligent, but the revocation I was unaware of
       due to constantly moving addresses.
       #Post#: 123620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: July 2, 2026, 12:31 pm
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       Currently, you are only being processed for the speeding
       offence. If you want to know whether the police will be
       understanding regarding an offence that they currently are
       unaware of, you could try telling them and asking them if they
       intend to prosecute. Or you could cross your fingers.
       All of the offences that you have told us about are summary only
       and carry fines and endorsements. None of them carry the
       possibility of a custodial sentence.
       #Post#: 123631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: WavyHus
       Date: July 2, 2026, 3:01 pm
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       Thank you very much Andy.
       I appreciate it
       #Post#: 123638--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: July 2, 2026, 5:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: WavyHus link ---
       >
       > Where can I read the Haiku rule? I don't understand that
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The same place you can learn to spell “licence”…
       #Post#: 124025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding ticket, without a driving license but I was not
       aware.
   DIR By: sparx
       Date: July 7, 2026, 4:44 pm
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       You have 14 days to apply for a provisional licence, which then
       may let you take the 3 points.
       Whilst I don't like your chances, I got my new V5 back from DVLA
       in 4 days... so miracles may happen.
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