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       #Post#: 123549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: roxyord@gmail.com
       Date: July 2, 2026, 3:13 am
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       #Post#: 123562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: July 2, 2026, 5:27 am
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       Thank you for the car pound documents. Councils often used to
       get these wrong but Newham's look to be correct to me so no
       grounds there.
       Your best bet seems to be the bay markings and that it was dark
       at the time you parked. (It looks to me like the bay got
       shortened and although old markings are meant to be burnt off
       they are often simply painted over and they can wear or wash
       away).
       Your tribunal appeal is that no contravention occurred due to
       the bay markings inviting you to park at that time. Towing you
       was also not proportionate but that would be a harder one to get
       an adjudicator to agree.
       #Post#: 123563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: roxyord@gmail.com
       Date: July 2, 2026, 5:36 am
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       Thank you for this, so you advice I appeal?
       #Post#: 123564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: July 2, 2026, 5:38 am
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       Yes as you will never see your money back otherwise.
       Amendment - I should have written 'make representations to the
       council' rather than saying yes to your thought of Appealing.
       You have to have your representations rejected by the council
       before you can Appeal but rejection is highly likely.
       #Post#: 123569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 2, 2026, 6:15 am
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       I don't think that the worn bay markings are a shoo-in. The DYL
       are clear and terminated correctly behind you.
       The council's position that you were parked outside a parking
       place and on DYL.
       Your position is that you were parked within a bay indicated by
       prescribed markings to your left and in front and that these and
       the DYL were conflicting indicators.
       I would also add that you saw the traffic sign to your rear and
       to your right and reasoned that because it did not contain an
       arrow, it did not mark the start of a parking restriction
       despite being placed exactly in line with markings but was of
       the form you would expect to find within a parking place, which
       is where it would be situated if you were in a parking bay.
       You went for the parking place version of the conflicting
       indicators and got towed as a result.
       #Post#: 123571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: roxyord@gmail.com
       Date: July 2, 2026, 6:20 am
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       Sorry, I’m a tad confused, are you asking me to add the third
       paragraph to my appeal too or you’re asking me not to appeal,
       sorry don’t want to get it wrong🥲
       #Post#: 123573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: July 2, 2026, 6:25 am
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       You are not appealing at this stage. First you have to make
       representations to Newham.
       Develop a draft here. There is nothing to lose so you may as
       well make them work for their money.
       #Post#: 123577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 2, 2026, 6:34 am
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       (crossed with stamfordman's post)
       If you don't make representations to the authority(at this stage
       you are not appealing to the adjudicator), then you've lost your
       money.
       If you make reps which are subsequently rejected, then you
       appeal to the adjudicator or you've lost your money.
       So you must engage with this process to its conclusion.
       You'll put your reps in your words, but post a draft first.
       My post asks you to add the presence of the traffic sign to the
       mix(which you must have read otherwise even if you were in a
       parking place it could still have been restricted!).
       So, IMO:
       For the council's position: clear DYL;
       For your position: conflicting indicators as to what restriction
       was in place. Bay markings ahead and to the side, albeit faded;
       traffic sign situated in line with where the council says the
       parking place begins but without an arrow indicating this whose
       absence in your mind confirmed it was situated within a
       multi-bay parking place inside which you were parked.
       #Post#: 123647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: roxyord@gmail.com
       Date: July 3, 2026, 3:17 am
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       My draft!
       Dear Parking Services,
       I wish to make formal representations against both the Penalty
       Charge Notice and the subsequent removal of my vehicle.
       On the morning of 27 June my vehicle was issued with a PCN for
       Contravention Code 01 before being removed approximately two
       hours later from Atlantis Avenue, E16.
       I wish to challenge this PCN and the removal of my car by towing
       for some reasons
       Firstly, I genuinely believed that I was parked within a valid
       parking bay. The location contains faded white bay markings
       which remain visible on the carriageway. As I arrived late,
       these markings appeared to indicate a legitimate parking place.
       The double yellow lines continue alongside what appears to be a
       series of old parking bays, creating an unclear and confusing
       road layout.
       In addition, the parking signs in the vicinity did not clearly
       indicate, by way of directional arrows or other markings, where
       any parking bay began or ended. In the absence of clear
       termination markings or signage, I reasonably believed the faded
       bay markings remained valid. Had the restriction been clearly
       conveyed, I would not have parked there.
       Also considering my arrival to the car park at 3am, the lack of
       light contributed to my confusion about these signs and marking.
       The subsequent towing of my car was also a disproportionate
       punishment as I was not obstructing any entrance, pedestrian
       walkway or other traffic flow.
       I hope these considerations are taken into proper advisement.
       Thank you
       #Post#: 123656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car towed Newham, code 01 parked in a restricted street
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 3, 2026, 5:57 am
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       "advisement" ? Surely "consideration" fits better ?
       Don't forget that there are no additional penalties for taking
       them to London Tribunals, because you have already paid all
       there is to pay.
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