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Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
46: Stopped where prohibited
DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
Date: July 29, 2026, 6:51 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> Your narrative is credible, so if you are prepared to risk the
full PCN penalty, register an appeal at London Tribunals. Make
sure you keep some collateral to back it up, like record of the
hire. The test for an adjudication is "on the balance of
probabilities". TfL are, of course, only interested in the
money.
>
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Thank you, I will go forward with the tribunals.
--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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> Let's see their rejection pl.
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Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
46: Stopped where prohibited
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 30, 2026, 6:27 am
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Sorry, but your father is not helping himself.
Nowhere in the thread is it made clear that a pick-up did not
occur, this only became evident from the video, your previous
post and the NOR. As regards the NOR, 'the evidence you have
provided [of a pre-booked pick-up etc.] is for a different
location.'
I don't know what to make of this.
Does your father have evidence of a pre-booked pick-up at this
time from the location in question? If so, pl post so we can
assess its prospective evidential value at adjudication.
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Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
46: Stopped where prohibited
DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
Date: July 30, 2026, 3:36 pm
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> Sorry, but your father is not helping himself.
>
> Nowhere in the thread is it made clear that a pick-up did not
occur, this only became evident from the video, your previous
post and the NOR. As regards the NOR, 'the evidence you have
provided [of a pre-booked pick-up etc.] is for a different
location.'
>
> I don't know what to make of this.
>
> Does your father have evidence of a pre-booked pick-up at this
time from the location in question? If so, pl post so we can
assess its prospective evidential value at adjudication.
>
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I believe it is reasonable for my father to not remember exactly
what happened as an Uber driver, since he has many jobs a day;
it may be difficult to remember. He only remembered some aspects
of this specific job after watching the video.
I can understand why you would think so. I think showing the
missing Uber evidence would help (btw the uber screenshot was
sent to TFL on the appeal).
HTML https://i.ibb.co/TDdSsDB4/Uber-Trip-1.jpg
As you can see, the address is Harleyford Road, Oval, Lambeth.
This is literally the road next to South Lambeth Road. Cobalt
Square is on the corner of Harleyford Road and South Lambeth
Road junction.
Sometimes uber does not show the pinpoint the exact place as
where the passenger is, and will drop the pin to a typical
pickup point, especially a busy place like the Vauxhall station.
Or the passenger might sometimes just book without looking where
the pinpoint is, and especially when they are underground in the
middle of a ring road, the pin point can be anywhere around the
ring road where it is accessible by a car. (i hope that makes
sense).
HTML https://i.ibb.co/m52swRHW/image.png
Here you can see where the road is that is on the Uber evidence
(Green).
You can also take an idea how close the cctv was captured (blue
circle). Don't you think it is unfair to say it is a 'different
location'?
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Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
46: Stopped where prohibited
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 30, 2026, 4:17 pm
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I don't know what an adjudicator would make of the evidence, I
know that Uber-speak is not my first language and I'm certain it
won't be theirs. If you decide to appeal, then don't presume
knowledge, try to make it absolutely clear, as you did in your
last post.
IMO, IF an adjudicator accepts that there was a pre-booked
pick-up at the time, then your father's next hurdle is why did
they stay in the bay when there was no-one on the kerb. Again,
he'd need to explain the difference between hailing a cab, where
the ride is at the kerbside, and Uber where the rider is given
an approximate time. I'd try to personalise matters e.g. you're
certain that the adjudicator would have booked a taxi for, say,
a journey to an airport and would not have stood at the kerbside
outside their house until the taxi arrived: this is not the
order of events i.e. taxi arrives, passenger(s) appear from
behind closed doors then load and go.
IMO, the bay is for the 'purpose' of picking up/setting down.
Sometimes things don't go to plan, although in this case I would
refer to the person who approaches the bay because how would
your father know this was not his fare until that person got
into the car in front. It's not a taxi rank(which has precedence
protocols).
IMO, there are also procedural issues with the NOR, but for me
fundamentally the issue is convincing an adjudicator that a
pick-up had been arranged.
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