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       #Post#: 123524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
       Date: July 1, 2026, 4:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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       > If this is just a case of the driver being authorised to stop,
       why not just make this case? How does debating the signage,
       which would seem to be subjective,  bear on this?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The more defence points, the merrier?
       #Post#: 124931--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
       Date: July 16, 2026, 11:38 am
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       Hello guys. The RK recieved this form TFL. I am a bit
       confused... did they reject the appeal? Or am I still waiting
       for them to respond to the appeal?
       #Post#: 124934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: July 16, 2026, 1:24 pm
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       Where were your reps (Reply#7 above) sent?
       What is the online status of your PCN? It should show as being
       on hold.
       #Post#: 124936--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 16, 2026, 1:32 pm
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       The more defence points, the merrier?
       Clearly not, your father has muddied the waters, created
       unnecessary confusion and caused himself alarm.
       If you read the letter, it is absolutely clear:
       'Please note, this[the FoI request] is dealt with as an entirely
       different matter to that of the PCN.'
       So, his reps have set at least 2 hares running, maybe more, when
       all he's really interested in is the PCN hare's progress.
       #Post#: 124940--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
       Date: July 16, 2026, 2:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
       >
       > Where were your reps (Reply#7 above) sent?
       >
       > What is the online status of your PCN? It should show as being
       on hold.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So it was appealed on TFL website as a "Challenge PCN" and I got
       an automatic reply from TFLEnforcement when i did it.
       Here is what is on the PCN history:
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       #Post#: 124941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
       Date: July 16, 2026, 2:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: tincombe link ---
       >
       > The more defence points, the merrier?
       >
       > Clearly not, your father has muddied the waters, created
       unnecessary confusion and caused himself alarm.
       >
       > If you read the letter, it is absolutely clear:
       >
       > 'Please note, this[the FoI request] is dealt with as an
       entirely different matter to that of the PCN.'
       >
       > So, his reps have set at least 2 hares running, maybe more,
       when all he's really interested in is the PCN hare's progress.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I will keep this in mind for next time :/
       #Post#: 124951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 16, 2026, 3:10 pm
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       Let's hope there isn't one.
       Anyway, all he can do is wait for their response to the
       substantive issue of contravention did not occur.
       #Post#: 126129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: FiveStarSAMz
       Date: July 28, 2026, 8:15 pm
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       Okay so the appeal was rejected. I will get a picture of the
       response a bit later. But to sum it up they said that no pickup
       or drop-off was seen in the footage. Even though it is true,
       there is a valid reason. The Uber driver's map showed that
       location to be where to pick up the customer; however, when he
       pulled over and checked his phone, the passenger said they were
       coming out the station from the other side (of the block/ring
       road) so my dad moved to pick them up from there. He was only at
       the spot for about a minute, if even that. Of course, my dad
       cannot check the messages while he is driving so he had to stop
       to check. My dad wants to take it to tribunals. I have never
       done tribunals yet so I am learning as we go. Any advice?
       Here is the link to the video sent by TFL:
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       #Post#: 126146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 29, 2026, 3:32 am
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       Your narrative is credible, so if you are prepared to risk the
       full PCN penalty, register an appeal at London Tribunals. Make
       sure you keep some collateral to back it up, like record of the
       hire. The test for an adjudication is "on the balance of
       probabilities". TfL are, of course, only interested in the
       money.
       #Post#: 126149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Private hire driver (Uber) - TFL - SW8 South Lambeth Road -
       46: Stopped where prohibited
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 29, 2026, 4:11 am
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       Let's see their rejection pl.
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