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       #Post#: 123574--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 24 -- do I have to mount the kerb?
   DIR By: neverpaying
       Date: July 2, 2026, 6:27 am
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       Given my intention was to appeal, and that the discount is not
       re-offered, I've let the 14 day window lapse. I now have until
       15/07 to send my representations.
       I watched today as a CEO walked past a car parked on the
       carriageway in the exact same spot. I have also been told
       previously by a different CEO that the council policy is
       (correctly) to not give PCNs for it. So I am hopeful that the
       representation will be enough for Havering to recognise their
       mistake and cancel the PCN.
       #Post#: 123595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 24 -- do I have to mount the kerb?
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: July 2, 2026, 9:18 am
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       IMO, forget CEOs and who said or did what and who's seen what
       when, none of this goes to the central legal issue IMO, and
       simply lets them to side-step the matter.
       Perhaps...
       As the authority will see, I was parked wholly on a length of
       carriageway which was not marked. Despite this, I was issued
       with a PCN citing the contravention grounds of: 'Not parked
       correctly within the markings of the bay or space'. This
       contravention can only occur in the vicinity of a designated
       parking place, however there isn't one at the location.
       I am therefore left to guess what possible problem the CEO saw
       with my lawful parking. As a 'Vehicles may be parked partially
       on the verge or footway' sign with the permitted variant 'In
       marked bays only' has been included in their evidence, I assume
       this has some relevance as regards the CEO's actions.
       But it does not relate to the alleged contravention.
       The sign indicates an area (my emphasis) in which parking on the
       footway or verge is permitted(again my emphasis).
       It does not indicate a designated parking place, neither does it
       prohibit parking on the carriageway, it merely permits
       conditional parking on the footway.
       I strongly suggest that the authority cancels this PCN now and
       takes the opportunity to instruct this, and possibly other, CEOs
       in the difference between discretionary parking on the footway
       pursuant to s15 Greater London Council(General Powers) Act 1974
       and mandatory parking within a parking place designated under
       s32 or s45 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984
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