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Unclear Image
DIR By: drivingbloke
Date: June 29, 2026, 5:17 am
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Simple one I think
Went online to see the images (from a mobile camera), for which
there are 3. First two show a speed but the images are so
blurry its impossible to see the registration the third does
show but the speed is shown as ---mph
Apart from 2 awareness courses over the last 9 years have not
has a speeding fine in over 40 years so I'm not exactly a serial
offender
Can I challenge the evidence as being unclear ?
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: June 29, 2026, 5:42 am
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The images are merely stills from a continuous video, So they
have "pinged" a vehicle at distance and determined it is over
the speed limit, and then continued to video it until the
registration is visible. Suspect they have enough evidence to
convict.
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: drivingbloke
Date: June 29, 2026, 6:05 am
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Thanks for the reply. But if they are using those images as
evidence, and these are from the Met Police portal, then should
they not be required to be viable?
If not should the Video not be on their too?
Images could be of any car there is no way of confirming its
mine
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 29, 2026, 6:10 am
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No
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: 666
Date: June 29, 2026, 6:19 am
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--- Quote from: drivingbloke link ---
>
> Thanks for the reply. But if they are using those images as
evidence, and these are from the Met Police portal, then should
they not be required to be viable?
>
> If not should the Video not be on their too?
>
> Images could be of any car there is no way of confirming its
mine
>
>
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>
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You don't know they're using them as evidence. The police do not
have to provide evidence at this stage: those images are
provided simply as a courtesy.
You cannot "challenge" anything at this stage, and you must
simply respond naming the driver.
You haven't told us what speed and limit are involved, so he/she
may or may not be offered a course and/or a fixed penalty. If
they are not, or if those offers are declined, than the case
will proceed to court, and the evidence will then be disclosed.
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: drivingbloke
Date: June 29, 2026, 6:26 am
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Ah! I didn't go that far on the portal to see if there was an
option to put any 'defence'
The offence is 70 in a 50 limit. I have been using the stretch
of road for years and became lazy reading signs and only
realised after that the limit had been reduced. Annoyingly I saw
them on the bridge but was not concerned as I was below the
previous limit
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: June 29, 2026, 6:47 am
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There is nothing to defend at this stage. You must first name
the driver. The police will then (most likely) will offer of a
Conditional Offer of a fixed Penalty (£100 and 3 points), which
you can either accept or ignore. Ignoring it will then see it
move to court phase via a Single Justice Procedure Notice, this
may not happen for several months. Only when you get to the SJPN
stage is any evidence the police going to rely on required to be
released.
Ignoring the CoFP could be an expensive mistake, the police will
have apple evidence of the offence and the vehicle in question.
And since you will have named the driver it is pretty much a
slam dunk for them.
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Re: Unclear Image
DIR By: drivingbloke
Date: June 29, 2026, 7:06 am
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Thank you, most useful. Guess I can live with 3pts & £100.
Was thinking it would be more like 6pts
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