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       #Post#: 123112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: June 27, 2026, 9:02 am
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       Thanks.
       I can't see much mileage in debating whether a BB displayed
       properly gives exemption from the payment requirement of this
       multi-layered restriction until you've shown that you have a
       valid BB and can construct a compelling 'terribly sorry, thought
       I'd displayed it correctly but can see that I hadn't, mea culpa,
       please excuse me here's a copy of my valid BB' argument.
       Also, are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details? I
       ask because any NTO would be sent to the RK and if a hire or
       lease company then further complications follow.
       #Post#: 123114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: June 27, 2026, 9:15 am
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       So yoi think it should be paid?! Imo its lazy / a joke from the
       attendant. I dont think they've even looked on the other side.
       I am yes but through my limited company
       #Post#: 123122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: June 27, 2026, 9:49 am
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       Was the BB valid?
       If your company owns the vehicle, as opposed to, say, you being
       its primary user on behalf of the company but the vehicle itself
       is leased, then on receipt of a NTO addressed to the company you
       could authorise yourself to make reps on behalf of the company,
       which I assume would be to the effect that on the day in
       question the vehicle was being driven by *** who holds a valid
       BB which they thought was displayed correctly, thereby exempting
       them from the requirement to pay, but can see from the evidence
       that it was not. This was a genuine mistake, here's a copy of
       the BB in question which is held by **** who you believe made
       representations earlier on the same compelling grounds.
       But a copy of a valid BB would have to be presented IMO.
       Others may have different views, so pl wait before acting. The
       14-day period for making risk-free reps ends on 9 July.
       #Post#: 123123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: June 27, 2026, 10:15 am
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       Manchester allows unlimited free BB parking in parking bays so
       presumably this includes this 3 hour EV pay pay but one wonders
       if that also includes non-charging. The clock is presumably not
       needed.
       The partially obscured BB is almost certainly the reason for
       issuing the contravention of parking without displaying a valid
       pay and display ticket (the PCN is only still a £50 PCN, £25 at
       discount).
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       #Post#: 123179--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: NorthernUpholder
       Date: June 28, 2026, 6:15 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       >
       > The partially obscured BB is almost certainly the reason for
       issuing the contravention of parking without displaying a valid
       pay and display ticket (the PCN is only still a £50 PCN, £25 at
       discount).
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is a pain in the system. There are no codes for incorrectly
       displayed badge or clock not displayed. So if you incorrectly
       display your blue badge, or fail to show the clock when its
       needed, or try and get extra time by nudging the clock on you
       get whatever contravention it would have been had you not
       displayed the badge at all, and people get most confused about
       this.
       #Post#: 123183--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: June 28, 2026, 6:31 am
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       --- Quote from: NorthernUpholder link ---
       >
       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=11278.msg123123#msg123123
       date=1782573316]
       >
       > The partially obscured BB is almost certainly the reason for
       issuing the contravention of parking without displaying a valid
       pay and display ticket (the PCN is only still a £50 PCN, £25 at
       discount).
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is a pain in the system. There are no codes for incorrectly
       displayed badge or clock not displayed. So if you incorrectly
       display your blue badge, or fail to show the clock when its
       needed, or try and get extra time by nudging the clock on you
       get whatever contravention it would have been had you not
       displayed the badge at all, and people get most confused about
       this.
       [/quote]
       There is no need for any such code. A blue badge is an exemption
       to certain contraventions so if it effectively not there then
       the usual contraventions apply.
       #Post#: 123191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: June 28, 2026, 7:57 am
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       If your BB was valid, then as suggested you could make reps
       along the lines of 'terribly sorry' etc. But if it wasn't, then
       this would be a dead end and we would have to look elsewhere to
       see if other grounds could be made out. But why waste time with
       the latter if the former is an option?
       But this info is being withheld.
       #Post#: 123195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: Cohlas
       Date: June 28, 2026, 8:38 am
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       Yeah it has expired. Didn't realise its 25£ so may pay just an
       added pain to pay to park on an already expensive ev spot
       #Post#: 123213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: baroudeur
       Date: June 28, 2026, 1:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Cohlas link ---
       >
       > Yeah it has expired. Didn't realise its 25£ so may pay just an
       added pain to pay to park on an already expensive ev spot
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But only by eight months!
       #Post#: 123218--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manchester Council PCN - EV charger with disabled badge
       displayed
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 28, 2026, 1:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: baroudeur link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Cohlas link=topic=11278.msg123195#msg123195
       date=1782653914]
       > Yeah it has expired. Didn't realise its 25£ so may pay just an
       added pain to pay to park on an already expensive ev spot
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But only by eight months!
       [/quote]
       So it would seem that the OP deliberately obscured the year on
       the BB because he knew it had expired, then expects us on here
       to show how to get round the PCN !! Hmmm.
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