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Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: tester1769
Date: June 25, 2026, 6:13 am
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Someone I know borrowed my car and received this ticket at
Northwick Park Hospital car park, The person paid the parking
charges but the car was not parked in a bay. I was not the
driver of the car, someone else was driving and now they are
refusing to pay for it.
The car is leased.
Original ticket can be found here:
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/JtdMSCW
Appealed using this:
I appeal as the Hirer. I am not obliged to identify the driver
and decline to do so. You cannot transfer the driver’s liability
(if any) to me as you have not served me with a notice to hirer
that complies with Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act
2012 (PoFA) and it is now too late to do so. In particular
(without limitation) your notice does not contain the warning
required by PoFA paragraph 9(2)(f).
I require you to cancel the parking charge and remove my
personal information from your database
Response from Apcoa:
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/FY2EqSo
Pictures from the ticket:
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/zz3opgz
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 25, 2026, 6:18 am
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They didn’t send a Notice to Hirer because you jumped the gun.
If you had done nothing following the Notice to Driver, they
would have sent a Notice to Keeper to the registered keeper, and
subsequently would have sent a Notice to Hirer to the hirer of
the car.
They may conclude that you are the driver, since you replied to
the Notice to Driver. Although it would seem that they haven’t;
other parking companies might well do.
Anyway, APCOA don’t “do” court, so you can ignore everything
until they give up, unless they change their modus operandi and
issue a Letter of Claim.
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 25, 2026, 7:52 am
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Does their letter run to more than 1 page? I would have expected
them to offer a comment along the lines of '..if you do
not....then we reserve the right to..'
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: RichardW
Date: June 25, 2026, 8:24 am
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What are the terms of the lease wrt to parking charges? NTD for
leased cars a bit tricky, as the next stage will be a NTK to the
lease co, which almost certainly attracts an 'admin' fee, and
they may just pay the charge and add the admin fee, so it might
be best to pay - or name the driver to avoid the Tesla fee, and
hope that APCOA continue their 'no court' MO.
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: DrSatan
Date: June 25, 2026, 9:01 am
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--- Quote from: tester1769 link ---
>
> Someone I know borrowed my car and received this ticket at
Northwick Park Hospital car park, The person paid the parking
charges but the car was not parked in a bay. I was not the
driver of the car, someone else was driving and now they are
refusing to pay for it.
>
--- End Quote ---
The forum is normally very good at helping people avoid having
to pay for tickets as keeper / hirer, and will absolutely be
able to assist you in doing that.
That said, you've got a person who's borrowed your car, incurred
an expense and refuses to pay. If you so desire, you can provide
their name and address to APCOA and that definitely removes any
liability from you and means that the other person can deal with
APCOA themselves.
It may burn a bridge, but some bridges are worth burning. Your
call.
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: tester1769
Date: June 25, 2026, 9:26 am
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Hey
No, there is a second page, I lost that to the photo editing.
I have uploaded it to this link
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/FY2EqSo
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: tester1769
Date: June 25, 2026, 9:28 am
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There is a admin fee which gets added by lease company.
I do not want to name names, If they can also get away with it.
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: tester1769
Date: June 25, 2026, 9:31 am
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Apologies, what is your advise ?
Waiting it out ?
One of my friends told me to email saying. I am legally allowed
not to share the person's details.
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 25, 2026, 9:35 am
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Legally, you can certainly name the driver and be done with it.
Your choice - APCOA won’t go to court but if your leasing
company charges an admin fee then you could suggest to the
driver that they pay the admin fee or else you’ll name them.
It seems unreasonable that you’re left carrying the can after
someone else borrowed your car.
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Re: Help with Apcoa PCN
DIR By: tester1769
Date: June 26, 2026, 4:17 am
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Is there anyway I can fight this ?
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