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       #Post#: 124612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: July 14, 2026, 7:20 am
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       Does the DVD work in that you can see the file list.
       #Post#: 124615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 14, 2026, 7:22 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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       > Does the DVD work in that you can see the file list.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Doesnt load at all
       #Post#: 124619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 14, 2026, 7:30 am
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       --- Quote from: gimpel link ---
       >
       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=11266.msg124612#msg124612
       date=1784031633]
       > Does the DVD work in that you can see the file list.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Doesnt load at all
       [/quote]
       Just tried another PC and after 3 times it managed to read it
       #Post#: 124654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 14, 2026, 10:06 am
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       --- Quote from: gimpel link ---
       >
       > [quote author=gimpel link=topic=11266.msg124615#msg124615
       date=1784031776]
       > [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=11266.msg124612#msg124612
       date=1784031633]
       > Does the DVD work in that you can see the file list.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Doesnt load at all
       [/quote]
       Just tried another PC and after 3 times it managed to read it
       [/quote]
       Here is a link to the video
       Can you please help
       Video
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       #Post#: 124662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 14, 2026, 11:08 am
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       Looking at the video, it is clear that your vehicle offside is
       on the lighter coloured paving stones. If you look at this GSV
       view of October 2020, you can see there was a very dark paved
       area with lighter coloured paving around it.
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       So it looks as if parking was allowed on the dark block area,
       (GSV views seem to support this). The offside of your car is
       clearly on the lighter coloured block area that was there when
       the dark area was there, So it  seems to me they have ticketed
       you for parking off-carriageway because you are not on the area
       where parking is allowed. There is a line of granite sets
       delineating the two areas.
       It's difficult to suggest what you might put in your
       representations against the PCN. You could point out that it is
       obvious that parking is allowed where you parked as there were
       several vehicles parked there. Hopefully this will force them to
       state why your parking got a PCN but none of the others did..
       #Post#: 124664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 14, 2026, 11:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Looking at the video, it is clear that your vehicle offside is
       on the lighter coloured paving stones. If you look at this GSV
       view of October 2020, you can see there was a very dark paved
       area with lighter coloured paving around it.
       >
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       >
       > So it looks as if parking was allowed on the dark block area,
       (GSV views seem to support this). The offside of your car is
       clearly on the lighter coloured block area that was there when
       the dark area was there, So it  seems to me they have ticketed
       you for parking off-carriageway because you are not on the area
       where parking is allowed. There is a line of granite sets
       delineating the two areas.
       >
       > It's difficult to suggest what you might put in your
       representations against the PCN. You could point out that it is
       obvious that parking is allowed where you parked as there were
       several vehicles parked there. Hopefully this will force them to
       state why your parking got a PCN but none of the others did..
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       thanks for your reply
       Is there any legal reason to understand that on the ashpalt you
       are allowed to park and on the bricks not? (besides common
       sense)
       #Post#: 124673--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 14, 2026, 12:16 pm
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       If you zoom in, it looks like tarmac, but you can see the
       outline of blocks. The trouble with your case is that parking is
       clearly tolerated, provided one sticks to the "rules" which, of
       course, are never written down. As I said, write your reps so as
       to query why you have been ticketed, and others parked in the
       same place haven't been. Their reply may give you the basis for
       an appeal to London Tribunals. TfL will reject your reps,
       needless to say.
       #Post#: 124674--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 14, 2026, 12:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > If you zoom in, it looks like tarmac, but you can see the
       outline of blocks. The trouble with your case is that parking is
       clearly tolerated, provided one sticks to the "rules" which, of
       course, are never written down. As I said, write your reps so as
       to query why you have been ticketed, and others parked in the
       same place haven't been. Their reply may give you the basis for
       an appeal to London Tribunals. TfL will reject your reps,
       needless to say.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Done Thanks
       #Post#: 126286--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 30, 2026, 7:35 am
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       --- Quote from: gimpel link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Incandescent
       link=topic=11266.msg124673#msg124673 date=1784049414]
       > If you zoom in, it looks like tarmac, but you can see the
       outline of blocks. The trouble with your case is that parking is
       clearly tolerated, provided one sticks to the "rules" which, of
       course, are never written down. As I said, write your reps so as
       to query why you have been ticketed, and others parked in the
       same place haven't been. Their reply may give you the basis for
       an appeal to London Tribunals. TfL will reject your reps,
       needless to say.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Done Thanks
       [/quote]
       Here is their reply
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       #Post#: 126287--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN for parking outside Toolstation with one wheel
       outside the box
   DIR By: gimpel
       Date: July 30, 2026, 7:36 am
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       Any help ?
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