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       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: July 26, 2026, 2:05 am
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       People have reported success when they send the email several
       times.
       #Post#: 130048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: Anon777
       Date: September 9, 2026, 11:59 am
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       I sent a letter and Moorside Legal responded back. Interestingly
       they admitted that the PCN wasn't POFA compliant but could still
       pursue the driver of the vehicle.
       Regardless, they have issued a court claim dated 3 September
       that I have received today, as attached.
       How to respond?
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       #Post#: 130049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: September 9, 2026, 12:06 pm
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       File a defence or Acknowledgment of Service by 22 September
       If you file an AoS then you have to file a defence by 6 October
       You already have the basis of a defence, so don’t lose track of
       the key dates and see what other suggest as well as posting a
       draft defence here for comments.
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       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: Anon777
       Date: September 9, 2026, 1:02 pm
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       Thanks. I believe I have grounds for a counterclaim under
       disability discrimination. Any idea of how much I should
       counterclaim for and anything else I can counterclaim for to
       deter them pursuing to court? Some sites suggest a minimum of
       £3,000 with added costs due to hurt feelings. I don't mind going
       to court and paying the costs if judgement isn't awarded in my
       favour. For me £259 isn't a lot but I don't believe I should pay
       it based on the circumstances.
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       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: September 9, 2026, 1:16 pm
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       If you counterclaim then you will go to court.
       If you do not counterclaim, there is a good chance that the case
       will be discontinued by the claimant before having to pay the
       court fee. However if you register a counterclaim they can't
       easily discontinue, or won't do so because your counterclaim
       requiring them to attend court will still be "live".
       Parking companies are not required to follow PoFA 2012 and can
       issue a claim to anyone they believe to be liable, Believing
       this to be unfair and having your feelings hurt won't stand up
       without more substance, so you need to think carefully about
       your proposed course of action. I can not personally offer any
       advice on the disability discrimination route you want to
       follow.
       #Post#: 130055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 9, 2026, 2:35 pm
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       I'm a bit lost as to why we're talking about PoFA, in the
       opening post the OP sets out that they revealed themselves to be
       the driver in the original appeal, so that ship would have
       appeared to have sailed.
       Do we have a copy of the original appeal - any defence based on
       disability may be helped by its contents.
       As above, Re. counterclaims. Our advice generally centres around
       helping people make these matters go away as quickly and
       inexpensively as possible. A counterclaim increases the chances
       of a hearing being required, and a £3k+ counterclaim would make
       it a no-brainier for the parking company to send a lawyer. A
       potential counterpoint is that it might encourage them to make
       (or agree to, if you propose it) a 'drop hands' offer, whereby
       they agree to drop their case if you agree to drop yours. It's a
       risk, and depends on the perceived strength of your
       counterclaim.
       If you wish to pursue a counterclaim, you may wish to seek legal
       advice from someone with relevant expertise in disability
       discrimination cases.
       #Post#: 130080--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: Anon777
       Date: September 10, 2026, 3:10 am
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       I don't have the original internal appeal but it was basically
       the same as my appeal to the IAS, as follows (have highlighted
       my main points).
       "I am appealing on the grounds of mitigating circumstances.
       During the time of the alleged contravention took place, I had
       suffered a headache and I was not in a fit state to safely move
       the vehicle xxxxxxx from the location where it was parked which
       resulted in the vehicle remaining in the car park longer than
       the allowed time. The duration my car remained parked meant that
       I exceeded the grace period by 12 minutes and 50 seconds.
       Please find attached evidence of, lengevity and severity of my
       medical condition and the medication I am prescribed that are
       used to try to abort headache attacks when they occur. I have
       suffered from this condition since the age of 15, I am now 35.
       You will see from my medical records and email chain with my
       Neurologist from 2020 that my headaches can last 7 hours and
       have resulted in me attending A&E.
       The parking operator has denied my appeal despite them being
       bound under legal duty to make reasonable adjustments under
       Section 20 of the Equality Act 2010 by not placing disbled
       people at a disadvantage. A reasonable adjustment provisioned
       under this act would be for them to extend the grace period to
       cover the period of time I remained parked due to the health
       complication that occured.
       The parking operator argues that the PCN has been issued
       correctly as a reason for rejecting my appeal but I am not
       disputing that. They are now aware of my medical condition and
       the circumstances which prevented me from exiting the car park
       before the maximum time elapsed. Section 29 of the Eqaulity act
       2010 makes it unlawful for the parking provider to discriminate
       against people with protected characteristics, one of them being
       disabled people such as myself.
       If an accident occured due to me not being in a fit state to
       drive my vehicle from the parking site that they manage would
       they take liability for the incident? I think not. It is my
       responsibility to only drive my vehicle when I am fit and well.
       I cannot control when a headache occurs or if my medication will
       successfully abort an attack.
       In this car park there is no provision to pay for any amount of
       time so paying to extend my stay in the car park was not an
       option. Despite what the parking operator has mentioned in their
       letter of refusal to my appeal, their signage does not state
       that their contact number can be used to inform them that a
       motorist has overstayed to prevent the issue of a PCN. Their
       signage only states that their 24 hour contact number is to be
       used for qeuries regarding making payment or for reporting
       malfunctioning equipment. Assuming a motorist will contact them
       prior to the issuance of a PCN for an overstay is not a valid
       reason for rejecting an appeal, this is exactly what an appeal
       process is for."
       Ocean Parking responded:
       "Mr X who is appealing the Parking Charge Notice (PCN)
       xxxxxxxxxx has
       been named as the registered keeper of the vehicle by the DVLA
       and has declared
       themselves the driver of the vehicle at the time of the
       contravention.
       2. The Parking Charge Notice was issued at Frome Retail Park. A
       Maximum Stay Period
       applies on site, and the car park is monitored by ANPR cameras
       for enforcement
       purposes of vehicles staying longer than the permitted parking
       period. The site is
       also patrolled by operatives to ensure the other terms and
       conditions of the
       Contractual Warning Signs are adhered to.
       3. The Postal Parking Charge Notice was issued for the
       contravention ‘Exceeded
       Maximum Stay Period’ on the x December 2025, as the driver of
       vehicle XXXXXX
       stayed on site for a duration of 2 hours 22 minutes and 50
       seconds, exceeding the 2
       Hours Maximum Stay Period.
       4. There are Contractual Warning Signs situated throughout Frome
       Retail Park, which
       state the Maximum Stay Period for parking on site, and the other
       Terms and
       Conditions that apply. A copy of the Contractual Warning Signage
       in place is attached
       to the case.
       5. The ANPR Camera is checked daily, and all data entries
       received are checked
       thoroughly before sending a Postal PCN to the Registered Keeper
       of the vehicle. The
       ANPR camera has captured the quoted times for this vehicle
       entering and exiting
       Frome Retail Park on the date of the contravention, as can be
       seen on the time and
       date stamped images within this document.
       6. The contractual warning signs in place clearly state ’2 Hours
       Maximum Stay’, and
       this vehicle was parked in contravention of this term of the
       contractual warning
       signs. Copies of the signage, a signage plan, and site images of
       the signage in place at
       this location, are present within our attachments.
       7. The ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Registration) records
       approximately 1300
       entries / exits a day for this location and calculates the stay
       duration automatically.
       The system is checked for anomalies before a Postal PCN is
       issued, and again on
       receipt of an Appeal. The times on the images provided, which
       are also shown on the
       Postal PCN, are supported by the recordings of the appellant’s
       vehicle on the date in
       question.
       8. There is Contractual Warning Signage throughout the site
       stating the parking Terms
       and Conditions in place, therefore when the appellant parked
       on-site, they accepted
       them, if they did not agree with the Terms and Conditions, they
       did not have to park
       there and could have left the site. Ocean Parking have a
       contract with the
       Landowner to enforce the Parking Terms and Conditions in place,
       and the appellant
       parked in Contravention of those Terms. Our Signage clearly
       states the parking
       requirements and the costs of non-compliance.
       9. The appellant has submitted their IAS Appeal on several
       grounds; however, the
       details stated do not negate the appellant from the parking
       restrictions in place, nor
       do they mitigate the fact the contravention occurred.
       10. The appellant has provided Ocean Parking, and The IAS with
       evidence, whoever, the
       details stated do not negate the appellant from the parking
       restrictions in place at
       this location, nor do they warrant their vehicle exceeded the
       maximum stay period
       at this location.
       11. Ocean Parking will address the appellant’s points below:
       12. “I had suffered a headache and I was not in a fit state to
       safely move the vehicle
       XXXXXX from the location where it was parked which resulted in
       the vehicle
       remaining in the car park longer than the allowed time.” – While
       Ocean Parking
       acknowledge the mitigating circumstances detailed by the
       appellant, this would not
       negate them from the parking restrictions in place, nor does it
       mitigate the fact the
       contravention occurred. The appellant failed to contact or
       inform Ocean Parking of
       these mitigating circumstances at any point before their
       internal appeal, therefore,
       the PCN was issued correctly.
       13. “The parking operator has denied my appeal despite them
       being bound under legal
       duty to make reasonable adjustments under Section 20 of the
       Equality Act 2010 by
       not placing disbled people at a disadvantage.” – Should the
       appellant wish to
       request a reasonable adjustment they should have contacted us on
       our 24-hour
       phone number and advise us of the adjustment they would have
       needed while they
       were on-site. Any requested adjustment deemed reasonable would
       have been
       accommodated, however, we would not consider retrospective
       cancellation of a
       valid Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to be reasonable adjustment.
       14. “They are now aware of my medical condition and the
       circumstances which
       prevented me from exiting the car park before the maximum time
       elapsed.” – As
       we were not aware of the appellant's reason for overstaying
       before they appealed
       their PCN, as they did not contact us to inform us of this at
       the time, the PCN was
       issued correctly. As stated above, while we can make reasonable
       adjustments for
       motorists who require them, we do not consider retrospective
       cancellation a
       reasonable adjustment. If the appellant contacted us at the
       time, or up to 24 hours
       after the parking session took place, they could have prevented
       a PCN from being
       issued. Nonetheless, the appellant exceeded the maximum stay
       period enforced onsite and failed to inform Ocean Parking of
       their mitigating circumstances until after
       the PCN had been issued. Ocean Parking therefore refute the
       appellant's claims that
       not cancelling the PCN is an act of discrimination.
       15. “Despite what the parking operator has mentioned in their
       letter of refusal to my
       appeal, their signage does not state that their contact number
       can be used to
       inform them that a motorist has overstayed to prevent the issue
       of a PCN.” – The
       contractual warning signage at this location clearly states that
       our 24-hour contact
       telephone number can be used to contact us, therefore, the
       appellant could have
       contacted us to advise us that they had overstayed, and the
       mitigating circumstances
       causing their overstay, and we could have permitted their
       vehicle on-site to cover
       the overstay, to prevent a PCN from being issued. If the
       appellant has left site with
       the knowledge that they have exceeded the maximums stay period,
       Ocean Parking
       are unsure why the appellant would not attempt to contact us to
       make us aware of
       this, as they had parked in clear contravention of the terms and
       conditions enforced
       at this location.
       16. Customers of the on-site stores are allowed to use the car
       park for up to 2 hours,
       however, as the appellants vehicle was on-site for 2 hours 22
       minutes and 50
       seconds, they have exceeded the maximum stay period allowed,
       therefore
       contravening the terms and conditions outlined on the
       Contractual Warning Signage
       in place.
       17. There are Contractual Warning Signs in place at Frome Retail
       Park, copies of which
       are enclosed and images showing where the signage is placed have
       also been
       uploaded, therefore if the appellant has failed to read or
       chosen to ignore the
       Contractual Warning Signage in place, we cannot be held
       responsible for this, nor is
       this due to the signage not being visible or clear.
       18. Ocean Parking would therefore conclude that this vehicle
       XXXXXX, entered and
       remained on site in contravention of the Contractual Warning
       Signage, and that PCN
       reference XXXXXXXXX was correctly issued.
       I then responded:
       "Ocean Parking has stated that:
       "If you were unable to park in line with the parking
       restrictions in place, we would assume you would have contacted
       Ocean Parking to make us aware of this, and to prevent a PCN
       from being issued."
       "Should the appellant wish to request a reasonable adjustment
       they should have contacted us on our 24-hour phone number and
       advise us of the adjustment they would have needed while they
       were on-site. Any requested adjustment deemed reasonable would
       have been accommodated, however, we would not consider
       retrospective cancellation of a valid Parking Charge Notice
       (PCN) to be reasonable adjustment.
       "we do not consider retrospective cancellation a reasonable
       adjustment. If the appellant contacted us at the time, or up to
       24 hours after the parking session took place, they could have
       prevented a PCN from being issued"
       This position is unsustainable in law for the reasons set out
       below.
       1. Failure to comply with the anticipatory duty under the
       Equality Act 2010
       The duty to make reasonable adjustments is anticipatory. As
       confirmed by Equality and Human Rights Commission guidance,
       service providers must take reasonable steps to anticipate the
       needs of disabled users and remove barriers in advance. They are
       not entitled to wait for a disabled person to discover
       unadvertised procedures or rely on undisclosed assumptions.
       Ocean Parking’s approach places disabled motorists at a
       substantial disadvantage by requiring the disabled motorist to
       somehow know, based solely on Ocean Parking's undisclosed
       assumptions, that a telephone call could be used to prevent the
       issuance of a PCN, only while on site or up to 24 hours after.
       Ocean Parking have therefore failed their anticipatory duty.
       2. Undisclosed and unreasonable time limitation
       Ocean Parking has relied on an alleged requirement that contact
       must be made whilst onsite or within 24 hours in order to
       prevent the issuance of a PCN. This limitation is:
           -not displayed on signage;
           -not communicated to motorists at
       the point of contract; and
           -not reasonably discoverable by a
       disabled user.
       Imposing an undisclosed procedural requirement and then refusing
       cancellation because it was not met places a disabled person at
       further detriment, contrary to the Equality Act 2010.
       3. Ocean Parking’s reliance on undisclosed assumptions and
       unclear signage
       Ocean Parking asserts that its contractual warning signage
       states that the 24-hour contact telephone number “can be used to
       contact us,” and on that basis claims that I should have
       contacted them to advise of an overstay and mitigating
       circumstances in order to prevent the issuance of a PCN.
       This position misrepresents what the signage actually
       communicates to motorists.
       The signage at this location expressly limits the purpose of the
       contact number to:
       queries regarding making payment or on-site payment methods; and
       reporting malfunctioning equipment.
       The signage does not state that the contact number can, should,
       or must be used for:
       issues relating to overstays;
       requesting permission to remain on site beyond the maximum stay
       period; or
       preventing the issuance of a PCN.
       It is therefore objectively reasonable for a motorist to
       conclude that the contact number is not intended for such
       purposes or that it is even possible to prevent the issuance of
       a PCN. If Ocean Parking intended the telephone number to
       function as a mechanism for avoiding a PCN, it was incumbent
       upon them to clearly and prominently communicate this on the
       signage forming the parking contract. They did not do so,
       placing disabled motorists at a particular disadvantage.
       Furthermore, under section 69 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015,
       where a term in a consumer contract is ambiguous or capable of
       more than one interpretation, the interpretation most favourable
       to the consumer must prevail. In this case, the signage makes no
       reference to any obligation to telephone the operator in the
       event of an overstay, nor does it state that failing to do so
       will result in loss of rights or refusal of retrospective
       consideration. Any ambiguity must therefore be resolved in the
       consumer’s favour. Ocean Parking cannot rely on undisclosed or
       unclear information to justify enforcement action or to assert
       that retrospective cancellation cannot amount to a reasonable
       adjustment.
       4. Retrospective cancellation can be a reasonable adjustment
       Ocean Parking’s assertion that retrospective cancellation of a
       PCN cannot be a reasonable adjustment is incorrect. Where a
       charge arises as a result of a failure to meet their
       anticipatory duty and to make reasonable adjustments,
       cancellation of that charge is an appropriate and proportionate
       remedy. Refusing to cancel in such circumstances perpetuates the
       disadvantage rather than removing it.
       5. Equality Act implications
       By failing to communicate that:
       contact during the period of parking or 24 hours after was
       required for overstays;
       such contact could prevent the issuance of a PCN; and
       retrospective consideration would not be given,
       Ocean Parking has placed disabled motorists at a particular
       disadvantage. Only allowing reasonable adjustments while on
       site, where this requirement is neither communicated nor
       reasonably discoverable, is incompatible with the anticipatory
       duty under the Equality Act 2010.
       6. No obligation to find parking elsewhere
       Ocean Parking has also stated that if I did not agree with the
       Terms and Conditions, I did not have to park there and could
       have left the site.
       This position is incompatible with the Equality Act 2010. The
       duty to make reasonable adjustments is intended to ensure that
       disabled persons are not placed at a disadvantage in accessing
       services. A disabled motorist cannot reasonably be expected to
       avoid discrimination by simply leaving and attempting to find
       alternative parking because the disabled motorist is aware they
       may breach the terms of parking due to their disability.
       Suggesting that a disabled person should go elsewhere rather
       than be provided with reasonable adjustments amounts to a
       failure to remove barriers and undermines the purpose of the
       anticipatory duty under the Equality Act 2010.
       7. Signage and contract formation
       Given Ocean Parking’s failure to clearly communicate these
       alleged requirements on its contractual warning signage or
       linked website, no additional legally binding obligations can be
       said to have been formed. Ocean Parking cannot rely on
       undisclosed assumptions to:
           -defeat an Equality Act claim; or
       deny that cancellation of the PCN is a reasonable adjustment
       This appeal does not seek discretion or leniency. It seeks
       removal of a charge that arose because Ocean Parking failed to:
          -anticipate the needs of disabled users;
       provide adequate information on how reasonable adjustments could
       be requested, or that such adjustments were only available while
       on site or within a limited time period thereafter; and
           -operate a non-discriminatory system
       Conclusion
       Ocean Parking’s signage, processes, and subsequent refusal to
       cancel the PCN collectively amount to a failure to comply with
       the Equality Act 2010. The Parking Charge Notice should
       therefore be cancelled.
       I reserve all my rights under the Equality Act 2010, including
       the right to pursue remedies for discrimination should this
       matter not be resolved."
       IAS then rejected my appeal
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       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: Anon777
       Date: September 10, 2026, 3:23 am
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       and before I upload redacted medical records proving previous
       A&E attendance and diagnosis. This is from the NHS's own site
       for the sumatriptan medication I take for aborting the headaches
       which states "do not drive".
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       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 10, 2026, 3:58 am
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       For what it's worth it seems like you've set out your case well,
       and Ocean have placed entirely arbitrary restrictions on when
       they'll apply reasonable adjustments.
       For your defence I think this could be front and centre.
       With regard to any counterclaim, I'll have to repeat my previous
       advice that my knowledge relates primarily to parking charges,
       not claims under the Equality Act.
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       Re: Ocean Parking | Trace - Unpaid parking charge £170
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: September 10, 2026, 4:12 am
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       As regards the regulated sector, and prospectively the standard
       which a judge would apply, I recommend you read the Equality Act
       comment by the Chief Adjudicator in this report:
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       There is very limited scope to argue that a diagnosed mental (or
       physical) health condition should lead to the cancellation of a
       penalty. Adjudicators must approach an appeal on the basis that
       the driver possesses the standard of a reasonable and prudent
       driver with the skill level which enables the driver to pass a
       UK driving test.
       
       If a health condition has an impact on one’s driving, the driver
       is obliged by law to notify DVLA so that DVLA can decide whether
       the driver can continue to hold a licence, or whether conditions
       must be imposed on the licence. A health condition does not
       lower the driving standard so that the contravention can be
       excused.
       Have you informed DVLA?
       This case might help clarify your approach:
       R (on the application of Amanda Howard) v The Official Receiver
       [2013] EWHC 1839 (Admin).
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