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#Post#: 125312--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Rob232
Date: July 21, 2026, 1:28 pm
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Had a job in Leyton this morning so popped to the site and took
a pic;
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bs2sVO7vNjC3yxwe4cLOr7s4CYQfnSgh/view?usp=drive_link
There is now a RH sign, it is on the "unicycle" post, minus the
unicycle.
Pic taken from the route the OP took i presume, as the vid
doesn't show turning.
High sign on left sits in the sight line of the chimney. Time
21.18 so dusk so sign not visible and unlit. No RH sign in vid.
#Post#: 125331--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 21, 2026, 5:20 pm
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What the photo shows is the absolutely absurd height of the sign
on the left. If this was the only sign there when the OP drove
past it, then that height should be a major point in the
evidence because it is totally out of the sightline of the
driver who should not have to be looking at sign positioned in
the sky. The new sign on the right is correctly positioned.
#Post#: 125870--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: July 27, 2026, 7:10 am
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Thanks a lot and thanks Rob for the updated picture.
--- Quote ---
> What the photo shows is the absolutely absurd height of the
sign on the left. If this was the only sign there when the OP
drove past it, then that height should be a major point in the
evidence because it is totally out of the sightline of the
driver who should not have to be looking at sign positioned in
the sky. The new sign on the right is correctly positioned.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi, both signs are there and yes the left side sign is quite
high
--- Quote ---
> Had a job in Leyton this morning so popped to the site and
took a pic;
>
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bs2sVO7vNjC3yxwe4cLOr7s4CYQfnSgh/view?usp=drive_link
>
> it is on the "unicycle" post, minus the unicycle.
> Pic taken from the route the OP took i presume, as the vid
doesn't show turning.
> High sign on left sits in the sight line of the chimney. Time
21.18 so dusk so sign not visible and unlit. No RH sign in vid.
--- End Quote ---
There is a RH sign I believe the video isn't wide enough to
catch it, When i entered the bus lane i was entering straight on
(no turning from either side road)
--- Quote ---
> As far as I understand it:
>
> There is nothing to corroborate the OP's claim regarding
stopping and exiting:'I realised by the time i reached the zebra
crossing (short way in) stopped and reversed back out. This part
has been removed from the clip.';
> They have made formal reps to which they have not yet had a
response.
> OP, is this correct?
--- End Quote ---
I definately stopped, paused to check rear view and reversed
back out (no U turn) I requested the full video they said If I
want the full video I need to submit a freedom of information
request
Update
Council have rejected my appeal today (as expected) I would like
to go to the tribunal but i'm not sure what i need to do next, I
believe its a gamble as If i lose I pay £160 but i do feel this
charge is unfair so willing to risk it
they didn't respond to my complaint I didn't use the route, they
said entering it triggers the PCN (Code 33 - Using a route
restricted to certain vehicles)
Gov.uk
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-enforcement-outside-london/annex-b-contravention-codes-for-civil-bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-enforcement-england-wide
Next steps
This letter is a formal Notice of Rejection therefore, before
the end of the period of 28 days
beginning with the date of service of this Notice of Rejection
("the 28-day period") you must
either:
- pay the Penalty Charge; or
- appeal to the Environment and Traffic Adjudicators ("ETA").
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 27, 2026, 12:15 pm
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Please show the NOR.
#Post#: 125983--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: July 28, 2026, 4:16 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Please show the NOR (Notice Of Rejection).
>
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/fTpFzRV/NOR-Page-1.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/8Q5sL3n/NOR-Page-1.png<br
/>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/pvmRP57R/NOR-page-2.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/8DhdBtCd/NOR-page-2.png<br
/>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/3yrDjGWF/NOR-page-3.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/pv0tMGZK/NOR-page-3.png
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 28, 2026, 7:34 am
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Date of NOR?
#Post#: 126040--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: July 28, 2026, 9:26 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Date of NOR?
>
--- End Quote ---
NOR Date 27 July 2026, recevied via email
#Post#: 126042--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 28, 2026, 9:29 am
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--- Quote from: Movieman9000 link ---
>
> [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=11260.msg126016#msg126016
date=1785242056]
> Date of NOR?
>
--- End Quote ---
NOR Date 27 July 2026
[/quote]
Hang on a minute. When and how did you receive it?
#Post#: 126069--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: July 28, 2026, 12:00 pm
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What they've conceded and what they've claimed
They've conceded it was a genuine error. More importantly,
they've made a specific factual claim I can dispute: "the
footage clearly shows the vehicle entering and continuing
travelling within the restricted area until the video footage
stops."
Surely "until the video footage stops" is significant. They're
not saying the footage shows me completing the restriction or
exiting at the far end. They're saying the footage ends while
i'm still inside. That is not the same as a completed
contravention.
Surely the evidence is incomplete, it shows me entering and
then?
Code 33 - Using a route restricted to certain vehicles - there
was no use of the route and i gained no advantage by entering.
Their legal argument
They're arguing the contravention is complete at the point of
entry — that any vehicle crossing the restriction line has
committed the offence, and what happens afterwards is
irrelevant.
#Post#: 126088--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 28, 2026, 1:36 pm
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Whether you used 100 ft or 500ft, you used the route. You do not
have to traverse the whole route.
IMO, their interpretation is correct and your argument goes to
mitigation only which the adjudicator may not consider.
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