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Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses and
cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: June 24, 2026, 10:56 am
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Date of PCN - 22/06/2026
Date of contravention - 04/06/2026
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I realised by the time i reached the zebra crossing (short way
in) stopped and reversed back out. This part has been removed
from the clip.
does the date of offence (04/06/2026) being more than 14 days
(18/06/2026) make the PCN invalid ?
#Post#: 122886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 24, 2026, 5:20 pm
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The LLA & TfL Act 2003 (see your PCN), allows 28 days to send
out a PCN.
Video shows that you approached the signs head-on, so they would
have been visible to you on approach. Any reason for ignoring
them ?
#Post#: 122993--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: June 25, 2026, 12:42 pm
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Yeah the signs are there for sure, it clicked about a second
later after i had gone through what the situation was.
By then i had driven through but went no further than the zebra
crossing (this part has been cut from the video)
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 25, 2026, 3:21 pm
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Not much we can recommend for this PCN, but there could be a
'technical' appeal based on the PCN or TH web pages related to
it. Hippocrates is our resident expert on these and has won
appeals at London Tribunals on them, but of course you must be
willing to risk the full PCN penalty; no discount option there
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: June 26, 2026, 5:55 am
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What do you think of the below i got from google
Yes, you can absolutely appeal this, and you have strong legal
grounds to do so.
Since you acknowledge the signage was clear, your appeal will
rely on a legal argument called ***de minimis non curat lex***
(the law does not care about trivial matters), combined with
**lack of full video evidence**.
Here is how you structure your representation to Tower Hamlets
Council:
### 1. The "De Minimis" Argument (Trivial Breach)
Crossing the line by only 20 meters before immediately stopping
means no actual contravention occurred in a meaningful sense.
You did not use the restricted route to gain an unfair
advantage, bypass traffic, or compromise safety.
### 2. Failure to Show the Full Incident / incompelte evidence
A Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) for a moving traffic restriction
must show a complete action. If the council's footage cuts off
while your brake lights are on and fails to show you reversing,
**their evidence is incomplete**. They cannot prove you
proceeded down the restricted route.
request the full video footage from them, if they fail to
provide you have a strong case to have the PCN dismissed
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 26, 2026, 1:57 pm
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Yes, those points can be made, but will they result in a win at
London Tribunals ? I think not. The council will, of course
reject them, because they keep the money if they reject the reps
and re-offer the discount, and they know that >95% of people
then do so, to get the discount.
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 27, 2026, 5:56 pm
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Hold fire.
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: June 28, 2026, 4:40 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Yes, those points can be made, but will they result in a win
at London Tribunals ? I think not. The council will, of course
reject them, because they keep the money if they reject the reps
and re-offer the discount, and they know that >95% of people
then do so, to get the discount.
>
--- End Quote ---
would have thought, at least been it when a human views it ,
they will see the full picture .
For me the fact they cut if off when I stopped and didn't show
the reversing back the way I came indicates they know they
can't show that otherwise the case falls apart by itself.
It's £240 as well I think if I go to tribunal and lose as they
say they'll increase it by 50% (discount £80, normal fee £160)
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 28, 2026, 4:50 pm
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Have you heard from Hippocrates yet ? If not, as he said, hold
fire for a bit as he is our "technical" appeal expert, and these
do win appeals at LT.
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Re: Tower hamlets PCN 33H - using a restricted route for buses
and cycles only
DIR By: Movieman9000
Date: June 30, 2026, 11:39 am
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I haven't had a reply, i didn't know he was the Guru :(
i have already appealed and i went with the below
- I admited i entered the junction (i think this is obvious)
- i went along the lines of the contravention didn't occur as i
didn't proceed along the route.
- i requested the full CCTV footage including showing me
reversing out (break lights come on
11m in, full stop at 20m). i reversed out the way i came no
vehicles or people were around me.
- Di minimis
33H says - Using a route restricted to certain vehicles.
Contravention Code 33These contraventions relate to using routes
restricted to certain vehicles like cycles. The restrictions are
shown on signs with white diagrams on blue backgrounds.
Suffixes:
33b) buses only
33c) buses and cycles only
33e) buses, cycles and taxis only
33f) buses and taxis only
33g) local buses only
33h) local buses and cycles only
33i) local buses, cycles and taxis only
33k) local buses and taxis only
33s) tramcars and buses only
33q) tramcars and local buses only
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