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#Post#: 122439--------------------------------------------------
PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: bees
Date: June 20, 2026, 4:40 am
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Hello
Morning. I am not sure, but i saw this yellow restriction /
warning board yesterday evening and saw the door numbers and
thought it doesn't affect me where I have parked. This morning
around 6.30 AM a PCN was issued. And after receiving the PCN, I
went around around the warning board and then reading it few
times, realised it said "and opposite". Not sure why they would
say "opposite" instead of door numbers ?
Can someone tell me If I can challenge this ? Is it ok to even
say "and opposite" in the yellow restriction warning boards ?
Here are the images, please check and let me know.
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/bDxN0rWB/image-2026-06-20-at-10-26-07.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/bDxN0rWB
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/zbCXwv69/Image-2026-06-20-at-10-27-42.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/zbCXwv69
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/xJvTG8hh/Image-2026-06-20-at-10-28-28.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/xJvTG8hh
Google Street view location :
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5293969,0.0471533,3a,83.2y,161.31h,71.5t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scJmUR6dz5JnZBe3vItTCyQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D18.504116418081537%26panoid%3DcJmUR6dz5JnZBe3vItTCyQ%26yaw%3D161.31091090221736!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDYxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
#Post#: 122440--------------------------------------------------
Re: "And Opposite"
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 20, 2026, 4:44 am
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Please supply the Reg Mark and PCN no., and also post a GSV link
to the location.
#Post#: 122441--------------------------------------------------
Re: "And Opposite"
DIR By: bees
Date: June 20, 2026, 4:47 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> Please supply the Reg Mark and PCN no., and also post a GSV
link to the location.
>
--- End Quote ---
Please find the attached. Images are now attached to the
original post. Kindly let me know if you need more details.
#Post#: 122443--------------------------------------------------
Re: "And Opposite"
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 20, 2026, 5:01 am
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--- Quote from: bees link ---
>
> [quote author=John U.K. link=topic=11222.msg122440#msg122440
date=1781948689]
> Please supply the Reg Mark and PCN no., and also post a GSV
link to the location.
>
--- End Quote ---
Please find the attached. Images are now attached to the
original post. Kindly let me know if you need more details.
[/quote]
Can only see images of suspension sign; one side of redacted
PCN; and close-up of Traffic Order.
The last, incidentally, appears to prohibit access and says
nothing op parking restrictions???
So, please post both sides of the unredacted PCN and the GSV
link, together with any council photos.
#Post#: 122449--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 20, 2026, 5:44 am
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IMO, It is not a 'suspension' sign in the accepted sense i.e.
suspending the use of a parking place in exercise of powers
under a Traffic Management Order, it's a 'traffic sign'
purportedly giving effect to 'The London Borough of Newham blah
blah Temporary Prohibition of Traffic Order 2026.
IMO, contravention did not occur because the use of the parking
place was not suspended, all the Order does is 'restrict traffic
access along.., it does not suspend statutory parking controls.
'7)An order or notice made or issued under this section [14]
may—
(a)suspend any statutory provision to which this subsection
applies'
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/section/14
#Post#: 123222--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: bees
Date: June 28, 2026, 2:00 pm
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Thanks everyone for your responses. Apologies for the delayed
response.
GSV LINK Google Street view location :
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5293969,0.0471533,3a,83.2y,161.31h,71.5t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scJmUR6dz5JnZBe3vItTCyQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D18.504116418081537%26panoid%3DcJmUR6dz5JnZBe3vItTCyQ%26yaw%3D161.31091090221736!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDYxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Here are the images from the PCN itself. I don't have a backside
image of the PCN receipt (as the wife replaced the receipt
somewhere). If you have any questions, please do let me know.
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/7Jg4rM3K/copy-229PCN-Details.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/7Jg4rM3K
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/N5M2YK92/Newhm-PCN-Img2061.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/N5M2YK92
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/hfjQgXzx/Newhm-PCN-Img2062.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/hfjQgXzx
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/XpJB3rG5/Newhm-PCN-Img2063.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/XpJB3rG5
#Post#: 123253--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: Fluffykins
Date: June 28, 2026, 11:02 pm
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What's an "Advanced" Notice? Wouldn't a Basic Notice be easier
to understand?
They could post up a basic notice ahead of time as an Advance
Notice.
#Post#: 123293--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 29, 2026, 8:25 am
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IMO..
Contravention did not occur.
The PCN was issued because the CEO had been instructed that the
display of the yellow board attached to which was a Temporary
Traffic Order had the effect of
suspending the prevailing parking controls and substituting
statutory different restrictions, in this case no
waiting/loading.
However, as can be seen, the TTRO does nothing of the sort.
Instead it restricts the access of traffic to specified roads
which cannot create the restriction which the council allege was
breached.
The PCN must be cancelled.
If the authority does not agree then, in any rejection, they
must specify and produce that part of the Order which it alleges
was breached. Simply stating 'there was a restriction and it was
breached' would not give proper consideration to my detailed
representations.
Some thoughts..
IMO, contravention did not occur because the use of the parking
place was not suspended, all the Order does is 'restrict traffic
access along.., it does not suspend statutory parking controls.
'7)An order or notice made or issued under this section [14]
may—
(a)suspend any statutory provision to which this subsection
applies'
#Post#: 123336--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: bees
Date: June 29, 2026, 4:43 pm
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> IMO..
>
> Contravention did not occur.
>
> The PCN was issued because the CEO had been instructed that
the display of the yellow board attached to which was a
Temporary Traffic Order had the effect of
> suspending the prevailing parking controls and substituting
statutory different restrictions, in this case no
waiting/loading.
>
> However, as can be seen, the TTRO does nothing of the sort.
Instead it restricts the access of traffic to specified roads
which cannot create the restriction which the council allege was
breached.
>
> The PCN must be cancelled.
>
> If the authority does not agree then, in any rejection, they
must specify and produce that part of the Order which it alleges
was breached. Simply stating 'there was a restriction and it was
breached' would not give proper consideration to my detailed
representations.
>
> Some thoughts..
>
> IMO, contravention did not occur because the use of the
parking place was not suspended, all the Order does is 'restrict
traffic access along.., it does not suspend statutory parking
controls.
>
> '7)An order or notice made or issued under this section [14]
may—
>
> (a)suspend any statutory provision to which this subsection
applies'
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the details. Can you help me draft an appeal please ?
#Post#: 123354--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Issued - "And Opposite"
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 30, 2026, 4:09 am
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They're as above!
Just put in your own words (top and tail with contextual
matters) and pl just stick with the substantive issue.
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