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#Post#: 12485--------------------------------------------------
Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ltn_hell
Date: December 15, 2023, 10:10 am
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Hi,
My dad was taking my Mum to hospital and drove the route he has
been taking for many years. He didn't realise that the road was
now a bus gate.
He drove through twice without realising. He got a PCN last week
for the 1st time (he paid) and has now received a 2nd PCN.
Is there any hope of an appeal?
My parents are in their 80's, my mum is registered disabled and
the car has a blue badge.
Here is the notice.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/6jRW37x.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/RnW4aHh.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/DMujiJa.jpg
Strangely, I've tried to look at the pictures but it says the
PCN can't be found
HTML https://i.imgur.com/jaTYhRd.png
Does anyone think there is any chance of appealing?
Many thanks
#Post#: 12492--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 15, 2023, 10:32 am
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Your online enquiry to Enfield failed because your answers were
the right answers in the wrong boxes :(
#Post#: 12507--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ltn_hell
Date: December 15, 2023, 12:32 pm
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> Your online enquiry to Enfield failed because your answers
were the right answers in the wrong boxes :(
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you and please excuse my stupidity! :-[
Here is the evidence:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/4CJzvOa.jpg
#Post#: 12652--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ltn_hell
Date: December 18, 2023, 3:15 pm
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Seems there are a few other people here who got tickets at the
same place.
I might try to ask for some leniency on my Dad's behalf. I will
update here if I do.
#Post#: 14618--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ltn_hell
Date: January 30, 2024, 8:02 am
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As expected, they rejected the appeal.
I've attached the reply.
Should I just pay the reduced fee for my dad? Or is there any
point fighting it? I've seen a few posts about this bus gate and
I've seen mention that the signage might be incorrect?
Thanks for any help
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 14624--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 30, 2024, 9:05 am
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The signage is correct, I'm afraid. If they've re-offered the
discount then I think that is your best option. The law assumes
if you're driving a car, you know what the signs mean.
#Post#: 14811--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 1, 2024, 5:32 pm
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You've not told us what you said in your representation?
#Post#: 14835--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 2, 2024, 4:57 am
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Definite use of will as opposed to may re their intentions!
Probably not enough to win though.
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Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ltn_hell
Date: February 2, 2024, 7:19 am
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Sorry, I don't have a copy but it was something like this.
I would like to appeal as I was taking my disabled wife to the
hospital and I did not realise that the bus gate was in use. I
have been driving this route for over 4o years and due to habit,
I did not realise that the road had changed. I passed through
the gate twice and received 2 tickets. I paid the 1st ticket but
I was hoping for some understanding and leniency due to the
medical appointment.
I know, it was a terrible response but I didn't know what to
say. I did see some other responses for the same gate that
mentioned the distance and the OP was asked to measure the
distance.
Any suggestions or help would be appreciated or I will pay for
my Dad.
Thanks!
#Post#: 14917--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield - 33c Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
(Buses & Cycles only) - Bull Lane N18 Bus gate
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 3, 2024, 1:20 pm
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If we'd drafted the representation for you we could have
probably won this on a failure to consider, but we are where we
are. I can't see anything that warrants risking the discount.
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