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       Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: tekko10
       Date: June 17, 2026, 2:40 pm
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       Hey,
       Ive moved to Dagenham a few months ago and have always parked in
       the same area. I parked like all the other cars half on the
       pavement. I hadnt checked up on my car for couple of days and
       when i checked today I had 2 PCN's with the Code 62. My question
       is if this is fair as I was the only one who received PCN's. Ive
       checked with the owners of the other cars which are seen in the
       councils evidence and they have not received any PCN's. Do I
       have a chance to appeal this ?
       Google Drive (Pictures):
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       Thanks
       #Post#: 122140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2026, 2:45 pm
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       Pleas also post the PCN. Do not redact anything if this is a
       kerbside PCN. Redact only name and address on postal PCNs and on
       other postal enforcement documents.
       Sorry, found it !
       #Post#: 122142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: tekko10
       Date: June 17, 2026, 2:48 pm
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       Added the PCN's on the google drive
       #Post#: 122143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2026, 2:58 pm
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       Dagenham are absolutely shite at this sort of thing because GSV
       shows cars parked part-off-carriageway in virtually all these
       type of streets; i.e. they have form !!
       Unfortunately, the latest view of this street is 2020, and much
       can change in that time. There should be signs on both sides of
       the street to indicate whether off-carriageway parking is
       permitted and from where to where on the street. Are there such
       signs ? With GSV out-of-date, it is now your task to tell us if
       there are any signs indicating off-carriageway parking.  I had a
       quick look at other streets in this estate and there are NO such
       signs in 2020, yet cars parked part off-carriageway indicating
       it was tolerated then.
       #Post#: 122144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: tekko10
       Date: June 17, 2026, 3:08 pm
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       Hey,
       I have now added up to date pictures on the Google Drive inc the
       CPZ Map of Dagenham. There are no signs stating anything other
       than the Lorry sign.
       #Post#: 122146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2026, 3:13 pm
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       As I suspected, they "tolerate" off-carriageway parking and
       leave it up to CEOs to decide whether to serve a PCN or not
       depending on the car's position. I suggest you talk to a few
       neighbours to find out what is going on, and also contact the
       local councillors to ask the same question.
       #Post#: 122150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: June 17, 2026, 4:03 pm
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       IMO, an adjudicator would disregard your claims regarding
       whether other cars park as you but without being penalised.
       But what they can consider IMO is 'Ive moved to Dagenham a few
       months ago and have always parked in the same area'. This is
       your experience which could inform a defence of 'legitimate
       expectation'. But you'll need to put meat into this claim.
       #Post#: 122158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: June 17, 2026, 6:06 pm
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       As the car hadn't moved the second PCN falls as it is a
       continuous contravention.
       There are other possible issues. Before I look at the traffic
       order map post the reverse of the PCNs.
       #Post#: 122165--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: tekko10
       Date: June 18, 2026, 1:08 am
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       I have uploaded the Reverses on google drive aswell as a video I
       had with the CEO who issued the Tickets
       I have also sent an email to my local councillor about this now.
       #Post#: 122174--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dagenham Code 62 PCN / Lawrence Cres
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: June 18, 2026, 3:57 am
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       I have also sent an email to my local councillor about this now.
       They might interest themselves in the wider issue of footway
       parking in that area, but they cannot interfere in your case:
       you must make representations on your own behalf.
       In short I can see:
       You were parked in contravention of the London-wide 1974
       prohibition of footway parking in a road subject to this
       restriction;
       According to the OP, the car was stationary between 16th and
       17th June
       PCNs were issued by the same CEO at on 8.09 on 16 June and on
       7.43 on 17 June, a gap of less than 24 hours;
       Both PCNs are visible on 17th(which supports the contention that
       the car did not move between PCNs);
       The second PCN has something attached between the envelope and
       the screen(OP, what was this?);
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