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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: July 12, 2026, 10:54 am
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Hello, sorry I’ve been quiet I’ve gotten myself a solicitor and
abit more info, the solicitor requested the case from the police
and this is what has happened:
Someone witnessed me go the wrong way on the slip road and rang
999 and gave them my registration. The police asked them for
footage and because they were driving a company car they
couldn’t get the dash cam footage until the 20/12 which is when
the police sent out the NIP , 21 days after the offence.
My solicitor has said I have a defence as there was nothing to
stop the police sending the NIP out on the day it was reported
to them.
Anyone had anything like this before? Thanks
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: July 12, 2026, 11:15 am
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There is an exception to the requirement to serve a NIP where
the RK's details could not have been ascertained with reasonable
diligence in time to serve a NIP within the 14 days.
There is an argument where a complaint is made to the police too
late to issue a compliant NIP that this exception would apply -
I believe that the test of reasonable diligence is applied to
the police, not to the person reporting it late - but that is
immaterial to your case.
Assuming the the person reporting the incident provided the
correct VRM, it is difficult to see why it would be necessary to
wait for the footage before issuing a NIP.
In my experience, most current 'loopholes' are caused by the
arrogance of the police - in this case it would seem to be a
policy of "we can get away without serving a compliant NIP if
the footage arrives too late" - which is not what the law says.
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: July 12, 2026, 12:50 pm
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Yes, I don’t see why the police could not have issued a NIP as
soon as the report was made to them (or a least very soon
afterwards and certainly so that it was served within 14 days).
The argument the police are using should not succeed. They had a
report made immediately after the alleged offence occurred. They
had no reason to doubt its reliability. They had no need of
proof that the offence occurred to issue a NIP. They could have
obtained the Registered Keeper’s details immediately. They had
no reason to require footage and, in any case, there may not
even have been any. What then? They don’t bother to pursue what,
on the face of it, seems to be quite a serious transgression?
The police issue NIPs for reports of minor collisions with
stationary vehicles in supermarket car parks. There is often no
footage and all they have to go on is an allegation that one
vehicle struck another.
It seems to me they have made a prize balls up.
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: July 12, 2026, 1:49 pm
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Running that defence in the face of a dangerous driving charge
is a no brainer.
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: July 16, 2026, 9:09 am
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Update - was in court this morning.
Met with solicitor in meeting area. Agreed we were pleading not
guilty due to late NIP , she said she had to inform the
prosecution, came back 30mins later saying is been thrown out.
Didn’t even get into the court room. All finished because of the
NIP.
Just wanted to put it on here incase anyone goes thru a similar
situation.
Made me ill over last few weeks, lesson definitely learned ,
don’t ever want to be in that situation again.
Thanks to anyone that gave me assistance on this forum.
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: July 16, 2026, 1:46 pm
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Thanks for letting us know.
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: JoCo
Date: July 17, 2026, 6:54 am
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Out of curiosity, how much was the solicitor?
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Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: July 17, 2026, 3:27 pm
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I must have called 6 odd solicitors , prices ranged from £1500
to £3000 all plus vat and wanted more if it went to trial. But I
called one and she was the only one that mentioned legal aid
because I’m on universal credits with my wife ( I’m self
employed builder and she raises kids at home ) so in the end it
didn’t cost me anything
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