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#Post#: 122138--------------------------------------------------
Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: June 17, 2026, 2:30 pm
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Hey all, this is the story:
27/11/2025 - I went the wrong way down a slip road, traffic was
stationary. Not proud of it, bit of an idiot moment but I
followed the person in front that did it.
20/12/2025 - received a NIP through the post, filled it in and
sent it back the same day
Didn’t hear a thing , and then:
17/06/2026 - received a letter for a court summons
Just want some advise please if anyone had anything similar, the
NIP took around 21 days to get to me, I’ve read it should be
within 14 days?
And I’ve heard that’s classed as a procedural case and I still
have to go to court and argue it. But I’ve shopped around and
solicitors want £2k minimum to do it.
Would appreciate any help, I know I was a twat for doing it but
it’s done and just trying to deal with this now.
Many thanks
#Post#: 122151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: 666
Date: June 17, 2026, 4:11 pm
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OP, presumably you were stopped by the police at the time, and
warned that you would be reported? If so, no NIP is required and
so its "late" arrival is no defence.
If not, are you the Registered Keeper, and were the details on
your V5C correct?
#Post#: 122153--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: June 17, 2026, 5:03 pm
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Hi, no wasn’t stopped, went down slip road and rejoined
roundabout and carried out ( instantly regretted it but is what
it is now ) yes I am registered keeper, everything up to date on
dvla and physic log book
#Post#: 122155--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: June 17, 2026, 5:16 pm
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If you are convicted the offence carries a mandatory minimum 12
month disqualification followed by an extended retest. It can
also carry a custodial sentence of up to wo years. Custody is
unlikely from your description of the events but a Community
Order very likely.
What was the date of the NIP?
#Post#: 122163--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: June 18, 2026, 12:35 am
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Incident date 26/11/2025
Date printed on the NIP 20/12/2025
#Post#: 122172--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: BertB
Date: June 18, 2026, 3:50 am
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So you received the NIP the same day it was posted? Which seems
to be more than 21 days.
What does the summons say with regards to the charge. They will
often include a statement that will contain the description of
the process they took to obtain the driver details.
#Post#: 122175--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: June 18, 2026, 4:14 am
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Four questions:
1. Do you have the V5C in your possession?
2. Have you looked at it since being notified of this incident?
3. Does it show your name and address correct in every detail?
4. What is he “docref” date (at the bottom of page 2, I
believe).
#Post#: 122177--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: Markfryer1985
Date: June 18, 2026, 4:21 am
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I received the NIP on 23rd dec as it was the day I broke up work
for Xmas I remember. The date printed on the NIP was 20/12. I
still have a screen shot of it. Court summons mentions nothing
of a witness statement etc. checked physical vc5 log book all up
to date with correct name and address
#Post#: 122183--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: BertB
Date: June 18, 2026, 5:02 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
>
> 4. What is he “docref” date (at the bottom of page 2, I
believe).
>
--- End Quote ---
And this bit?
The reason for the scrutiny is we are told it is virtually
impossible for the 'system' to issue an NIP out of time. There
is also of course the general state of the postal system these
days (and particularly it being a busy time of the year of for
the post office).
But there is the possibility that on the 20th December an
automatic reminder was sent as 21 days had lapsed without a
response. You have 28 days but you do see reminders being
received before that has elapsed.
Often the process of identification is described in the
statement, along the lines of "A S.172 request was sent on X
date requesting driver details" If no response was received it
will mention a reminder was sent on XX date.
#Post#: 122211--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dangerous driving - court summons advise
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 18, 2026, 9:16 am
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--- Quote from: Markfryer1985 link ---
>
> Hey all, this is the story:
--- End Quote ---
This isn't Jackanory. We'd rather hear the relevant facts.
--- Quote ---
> 27/11/2025 - I went the wrong way down a slip road, traffic
was stationary. Not proud of it, bit of an idiot moment but I
followed the person in front that did it.
>
> 20/12/2025 - received a NIP through the post, filled it in and
sent it back the same day
>
> Didn’t hear a thing , and then:
>
> 17/06/2026 - received a letter for a court summons
>
> Just want some advise please if anyone had anything similar,
the NIP took around 21 days to get to me, I’ve read it should be
within 14 days?
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: Markfryer1985 link ---
>
> Incident date 26/11/2025
> Date printed on the NIP 20/12/2025
>
--- End Quote ---
So, you received the NIP through the post on the same day as it
was printed (and presumably posted), and you want people to give
up their free time to help you with a technical defence that
relies on details?
And you are variously unable or unwilling to provide the date
after the DocRef. No. on the V5C that you definitely physically
have and which definitely has your correct and current details.
--- Quote ---
> And I’ve heard that’s classed as a procedural case and I still
have to go to court and argue it. But I’ve shopped around and
solicitors want £2k minimum to do it.
--- End Quote ---
IMHO a bargain.
--- Quote ---
> Would appreciate any help, I know I was a twat for doing it
but it’s done and just trying to deal with this now.
--- End Quote ---
We don't care what you did or didn't do to get yourself in
trouble in the first place. What we do care about is whether or
not you act like a twat here.
And wtf is "a letter for a summons"?
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