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       Should I take this to tribunal/ssc? Or just pay it ?
   DIR By: Syfvr
       Date: June 17, 2026, 12:59 am
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       Hi everyone,
       I need some urgent advice on whether to pay the discounted rate
       of £35 before midnight tonight (17 June 2026) or let it escalate
       to the formal Notice to Owner (NtO) stage and take it to the
       Traffic Penalty Tribunal.
       The Situation:
       I received a PCN from Salford Council for parking on a single
       yellow line restriction on Ohio Avenue. I submitted an informal
       challenge, which the council has rejected. Their rejection
       letter states that the yellow lines are clear and enforceable
       and that the restriction covers the highway/verge, which all
       drivers are deemed to know.
       My Defense Angles:
       1.
       completely covered in a heavy layer of dirt, mud, and wet street
       debris.
       2.
       visibly cuts off or disappears under the debris before it even
       reaches my vehicle's rear wheels. I parked entirely on what
       appeared to be an unrestricted, plain gap in the road where
       other cars regularly park without issue.
       3.
       obscured and caked over, I didn't see a yellow line to indicate
       a restriction, and therefore had no legal reason or 'trigger' to
       look out for an upright timeplate (though a nearby sign is
       visible from certain angles). Yet in other situations where the
       line is obscured the councils counter would be to say that it’s
       the drivers responsibility to look for a timeplate on that side
       of the road but I thought I was parking on an unrestricted part
       of it and furthermore the timeplate was only visible from the
       angles the CEO took them from and at the time of parking it was
       night time and I was headed the opposite direction of where the
       ceo took them.
       Should I cut my losses and pay the £35 tonight to avoid the fine
       jumping to £70, or do I have a strong enough case based on the
       completely obscured/missing road markings to let it go to the
       formal NtO stage and fight them at the tribunal?
       I have attached the council's rejection letter, the original
       PCN, and the photographic evidence below. Any insight is
       massively appreciated!
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       Re: Should I take this to tribunal/ssc? Or just pay it ?
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2026, 4:06 am
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       Please read this and update your thread accordingly: -
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       Are the photos your's or the councils ?
       Please also post a GSV link to the exact location
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       Re: Should I take this to tribunal/ssc? Or just pay it ?
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: June 17, 2026, 4:21 am
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       Looks like you parked on a clear yellow line with a nearby
       timeplate. The line puts you on notice to check for a timeplate
       or controlled zone.
       So not seeing anything to continue. But I can't see council pics
       online for some reason.
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       Re: Should I take this to tribunal/ssc? Or just pay it ?
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 17, 2026, 5:15 am
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       Here is the 'muck' covering the yellow line: -
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       But OP has yet to post the PCN. Usually the CEO photos can be
       viewed on the council website by quoting PCN Number and car reg.
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       Re: Should I take this to tribunal/ssc? Or just pay it ?
   DIR By: Syfvr
       Date: June 18, 2026, 5:50 pm
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       Re: Should I take this to tribunal/ssc? Or just pay it ?
   DIR By: Syfvr
       Date: June 18, 2026, 5:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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       > Looks like you parked on a clear yellow line with a nearby
       timeplate. The line puts you on notice to check for a timeplate
       or controlled zone.
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       > So not seeing anything to continue. But I can't see council
       pics online for some reason.
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       >
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       Salford council doesn’t post the picture on the portal I only
       get the photos once I submit an appeal and they send the
       pictures with the reply for some reason
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