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#Post#: 121973--------------------------------------------------
P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: U.s.0.1
Date: June 16, 2026, 9:39 am
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Hello all.
I need some advice on this kind of ticket as it has never
happened to me before, and the wife got it. Images below.
HTML https://ibb.co/7tkwF3q5
HTML https://ibb.co/F4jYy9yj
HTML https://ibb.co/TBzJbvtC
Essentially, my wife mentioned it was not clear at all where the
visitor parking was and where resident parking was in this gated
development.
I have also tried to find photo evidence from p4 online, and I
can't seem to find anything. Surely they must've taken photo
evidence ;D
But just not sure what the initial best course of action is on
this one.
Welcome any thoughts. Thank you.
#Post#: 121981--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 16, 2026, 10:21 am
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If you or your wife is the registered keeper, ignore this Notice
to Driver and wait until a Notice to Keeper is sent to you. Come
back here when it does. There is a good chance that it will fail
the requirements to transfer liability from the driver (whom
they do not know, and who you will not identify) to the
registered keeper.
For example, having 1 minute as a period of parking is going to
be a problem for them.
Just make sure you don’t identify the driver to them.
#Post#: 121984--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: U.s.0.1
Date: June 16, 2026, 10:31 am
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Ok shall do, thank you!
RK is my wife in this instance.
I'll wait for the NtK and message here again.
#Post#: 121994--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 16, 2026, 11:34 am
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For a NtK following a Notice to Driver which is not responded
to: (
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4)
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> 8(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to keeper
for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(a) is given in accordance
with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.
>
> (2)The notice must—
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> (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was
parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;
>
> (b)inform the keeper that the driver is required to pay
parking charges in respect of the specified period of parking
and that the parking charges have not been paid in full;
>
> (c)state that a notice to driver relating to the specified
period of parking has been given and repeat the information in
that notice as required by paragraph 7(2)(b), (c) and (f);
>
> (d)if the unpaid parking charges specified in that notice to
driver as required by paragraph 7(2)(c) have been paid in part,
specify the amount that remains unpaid, as at a time which is—
>
> (i)specified in the notice to keeper, and
>
> (ii)no later than the end of the day before the day on which
the notice is either sent by post or, as the case may be, handed
to or left at a current address for service for the keeper (see
sub-paragraph (4));
>
> (e)state that the creditor does not know both the name of the
driver and a current address for service for the driver and
invite the keeper—
>
> (i)to pay the unpaid parking charges; or
>
> (ii)if the keeper was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify
the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for
service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver;
>
> (f)warn the keeper that if, at the end of the period of 28
days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to
keeper is given—
>
> (i)the amount of the unpaid parking charges (as specified
under paragraph (c) or (d)) has not been paid in full, and
>
> (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and
a current address for service for the driver,
>
> the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this
Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so
much of that amount as remains unpaid;
> (g)inform the keeper of any discount offered for prompt
payment and the arrangements for the resolution of disputes or
complaints that are available;
>
> (h)identify the creditor and specify how and to whom payment
or notification to the creditor may be made;
>
> (i)specify the date on which the notice is sent (if it is sent
by post) or given (in any other case).
>
> (3)The notice must relate only to a single period of parking
specified under sub-paragraph (2)(a) (but this does not prevent
the giving of separate notices which each specify different
parts of a single period of parking).
>
> (4)The notice must be given by—
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> (a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current
address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period;
or
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> (b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the
keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the
relevant period.
>
> (5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)
is the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days
beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver
was given.
--- End Quote ---
Amongst other things, I think this means the NtK should arrive
15 July - 12 August.
#Post#: 121995--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: U.s.0.1
Date: June 16, 2026, 11:40 am
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Ok thank you, I'll keep an eye out for it, and post the details
here once it arrives.
#Post#: 125507--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: U.s.0.1
Date: July 23, 2026, 10:36 am
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Hey all
Got the NtK today in the post (although its dated 16th July,
typical Post office services).
Here it is:
HTML https://ibb.co/xqdpqkbX
I'd really appreciate what next steps to take please.
Mant thanks!
#Post#: 125843--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: U.s.0.1
Date: July 27, 2026, 4:36 am
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[member=636]jfollows[/member] I think you're the only one
interested in this post :D
Can I ask what my next steps should be please?
#Post#: 125849--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: July 27, 2026, 5:05 am
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The notice is not compliant with POFA Schedule 4 Paragraph
8(2)(e) - there is no invitation to the keeper to pay the unpaid
parking charges.
#Post#: 125923--------------------------------------------------
Re: P4 pvt parking ticket in a gated development
DIR By: U.s.0.1
Date: July 27, 2026, 12:29 pm
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Thank you. Is there already a template letter i can use on ftla?
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