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#Post#: 121769--------------------------------------------------
Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and Display
– Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: stevec004
Date: June 14, 2026, 4:38 pm
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Looking for advice on two private parking PCNs from Carparkers
(Anglia) Ltd at Sea Palling / Clink Road car park (Norfolk).
I have received two Notice to Keeper PCNs (24th May and 26th
May), both for exactly the same alleged contravention: “Parked
without a valid Pay & Display Ticket”. These were postal notices
with ANPR entry/exit photos.
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Facts:
* Driver parked in the Sea Palling car park (Clink Road / Clink
Lane, NR12 0UL).
* On both occasions, the payment machine nearest to where driver
parked was not working.
* Driver walked to the nearest operational machine, which was
immediately adjacent and only about a metre from the boundary.
Looking at google maps this could possibly be within the
neighbouring car park (Beach Rock car park).
* The two car parks are separated only by a low fence with
multiple proper pedestrian gaps/openings, making it easy to walk
between them.
* There was nothing obvious to the driver indicating that they
could not use that nearby machine, particularly given the
nearest machine was unavailable.
* Other motorists on both occasions also appeared to use the
same nearby machine after finding the nearer one not working.
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Importantly, Driver did pay for parking on both visits.
For 24th May, the driver still has the physical pay and display
ticket:
* Vehicle registration entered correctly
* Ticket bought 7 minutes after arrival
* Time purchased covered the entire stay
* £3 paid
* Vehicle left before expiry
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The PCN alleges “parked without a valid pay and display ticket”,
but the driver plainly did purchase one for the registration and
stay.
For 26th May, the driver no longer has the physical ticket, but
the driver does have a matching bank/card payment around the
relevant time.
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My suspicion is that because the nearest machine was broken, the
driver may have paid at the adjacent car park’s machine without
realising the ticket would not apply, but the driver genuinely
believed they were complying and had paid.
The driver is planning to appeal both. Does this sound like a
reasonable first appeal / POPLA case, particularly around
unclear signage/boundaries, machine failure, and evidence of
payment?
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PCN cover:
HTML https://ibb.co/sd1z6Cvn
PCN back page:
HTML https://ibb.co/fGL69tmN
Ticket for 24th May:
HTML https://ibb.co/My4RzL8M
Car park address which was parked in: Clink Rd, Sea Palling,
Norwich NR12 0AL
Image of payment machines (behind the big 'car park' sign is the
broken payment machine and on the right is the machine that was
paid at):
HTML https://ibb.co/5htGBQ7s
#Post#: 121770--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 14, 2026, 4:58 pm
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The PCN for 24/5 is issued too late to use PoFA 2012 to transfer
liability from the driver to the registered keeper. It has to
reach the registered keeper within 14 days and, with a date of
8/6, it can’t have done.
Please post the 26/5 NTK to see if it has the same failing.
If so, you have a simple single appeal point for both notices as
long as you appeal as registered keeper and do not identify the
driver.
If you include the other stuff in your appeal they will rebut
your appeal on other points and completely ignore the PoFA
point, which they can’t rebut.
#Post#: 121774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: stevec004
Date: June 14, 2026, 5:19 pm
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Thank you so much for your response. I understand what you’ve
suggested and will respond with that.
The other ticket for 26/May has the same date of notice, 8/June.
14 days after 26/May is 9/June - technically 1st class post
could arrive next day so does this ticket stand, and the driver
needs to go with an appeal?
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#Post#: 121776--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: stevec004
Date: June 14, 2026, 5:31 pm
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
> The PCN for 24/5 is issued too late to use PoFA 2012 to
transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper. It
has to reach the registered keeper within 14 days and, with a
date of 8/6, it can’t have done.
> Please post the 26/5 NTK to see if it has the same failing.
>
> If so, you have a simple single appeal point for both notices
as long as you appeal as registered keeper and do not identify
the driver.
>
> If you include the other stuff in your appeal they will rebut
your appeal on other points and completely ignore the PoFA
point, which they can’t rebut.
>
--- End Quote ---
Unfortunately reading this legislation it seems they have 28
days not 14, and it also applies after they receive the keepers
information from the DVLA which can take some days.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
Where did yoy see the 14 days so that I can double check?
#Post#: 121777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: June 14, 2026, 5:46 pm
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You may wish to consult paragraphs 9(4) and 9(5):
[indent](4)The notice must be given by—
(a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address
for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or
(b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the
keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the
relevant period.
(5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is
the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which
the specified period of parking ended.[/indent]
#Post#: 121781--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: stevec004
Date: June 15, 2026, 12:00 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> You may wish to consult paragraphs 9(4) and 9(5):
>
> [indent](4)The notice must be given by—
>
> (a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current
address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period;
or
>
> (b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the
keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the
relevant period.
>
> (5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)
is the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on
which the specified period of parking ended.[/indent]
>
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Thank you, I like to have my facts straight to ensure I get it
right first time.
So, the 2nd ticket (26/May with the notification date of 8/Jun)
needs an alternative response as it is just within the 14 days,
is that right?
#Post#: 121782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 15, 2026, 12:13 am
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A notice dated 8 June is deemed to be delivered 10 June,
--- Quote ---
> (6)A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the
contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for
the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day
after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose
“working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a
public holiday in England and Wales.
>
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, so is also too late for the same reason.
It’s all in paragraph 9 of schedule 4.
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Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: June 15, 2026, 2:56 am
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Neither notice is compliant with PoFA Schedule 4 Paragraph 9(2).
I don't think they are relying on PoFA.
#Post#: 121806--------------------------------------------------
Re: Carparkers Parking PCN – Parking without a valid Pay and
Display – Clink Road, Sea Palling, Norfolk
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 15, 2026, 4:36 am
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--- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
>
> Neither notice is compliant with PoFA Schedule 4 Paragraph
9(2).
>
> I don't think they are relying on PoFA.
>
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I completely agree, so the appeal can be simple, that the driver
has not been identified and the registered keeper is not liable
because PoFA 2012 has not been complied with. Plenty of sample
appeals to that end on the forum. If rejected, POPLA can be
provided with the same appeal point, but it can be fleshed out
slightly to also observe why it’s not compliant if they claim
that it is.
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