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Brent, 51J Failing to comply with a no entry restriction, Harrow
Rd / Oakington Manor Dr, Bailiff & PE2/PE3 Advice
DIR By: ellx_x
Date: June 13, 2026, 5:59 pm
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Hi!
I'd like to get advice regarding the submission of PE2 and PE3
forms. To be clear, I am *not* seeking advice to appeal the PCN
itself. I would like to know if I have grounds for a PE2/PE3
statutory claim and if it is likely to be accepted or rejected.
I would also like advice on wording the PE2 and PE3 forms, as
well as what kind of evidence I should submit with the forms, if
any.
My goal is to get my £560 back, the amount I had to pay the
enforcement agency when they showed up at my door. I'm aware
I'll receive a new PCN.
Here is the timeline of events:
08/APR/2025 - Date of PCN
01/MAY/2025 - PCN discount extension appeal requested. Email of
receipt of appeal received.
01/SEP/2025 - Moved address
09/SEP/2025 - V5C address updated
16/SEP/2025 - Driving licence address updated
06/OCT/2025 - Appeal rejected. Notice most likely sent to old
address.
07/FEB/2026 - Bailiff agents arrive at my door. Payment made.
(This was when I was made aware of any outstanding payment)
Here are the details of the PCN:
Issuing Council: London Borough of Brent
PCN Reference: BT25142602
Number plate: LF18 OZJ
Full details of the PCN can be viewed at
HTML https://brent.tarantoportal.com/PCN/
I haven't attached the original PCN received in the mail since
I'm not trying to appeal it at the moment, and it is also long
lost. All details should be available online at the link posted.
The "Key Events" tab at the top shows the timeline of events
from Brent Council's point of view.
I have attempted to contact bailiffadviceonline.co.uk but didn't
receive further communication from them.
Thank you, I would appreciate any help :)
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Re: Brent, 51J Failing to comply with a no entry restriction,
Harrow Rd / Oakington Manor Dr, Bailiff & PE2/PE3 Advice
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 14, 2026, 3:02 am
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The PCN was for a moving traffic contravention in London.
What does '01/MAY/2025 - PCN discount extension appeal
requested. Email of receipt of appeal received.' mean?
I'm aware I'll receive a new PCN. No you won't, see below.
Did you make representations in time?
Did you receive a response?
If yes and no, then the grounds for submitting a PE2 would seem
clear. Don't confuse matters IMO.
Statutory Declaration
Where an Order for Recovery has been made, liability for the
penalty can then only be challenged in the following
circumstances:
You did not receive the Penalty Charge Notice in question; or
You made representations to the Enforcement Authority concerned
but did not receive a Notice of Rejection from that authority;
or
You appealed to the adjudicator against the rejection by the
Enforcement Authority of your representations but had no
response to the appeal.
Do you have a copy of your reps and proof of when and how sent?
I'm not trying to appeal it at the moment,. It's not your
choice.
If you submit a PE2 on the grounds that you did not receive a
response to reps and if this is accepted then:
1. Brent must refund ALL monies paid;
2. They must refer the matter to the adjudicator for directions,
which more often now are to require you to produce your reps
which if you do would mean that the matter would be registered
as an appeal at which point you could simply pay the PCN - if
you've received your refund!
But Brent may object to TEC accepting your PE2 late. So, what to
put in your PE3.
I think views might differ. IMO, you should focus on this:
Made reps on 1 May;(if this is correct).
NOR issued 1 October.
As it happens, you had moved address in September but did not
notify the council because this was 4 months after reps were
submitted at which time you rather assumed that the issue was
resolved. It would seem unfair that a motorist is required to
keep the authority informed about every move they make while the
authority takes however long it likes to deal with their legal
duty.
But you've got to confirm some issues first i.e. when were reps
submitted, can you prove this and have you a copy?
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Re: Brent, 51J Failing to comply with a no entry restriction,
Harrow Rd / Oakington Manor Dr, Bailiff & PE2/PE3 Advice
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 14, 2026, 4:19 am
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If indeed it took 4 months to issue a rejection, London
Tribunals says:
The adjudicators have decided that a Enforcement Authority
should normally respond to representations within 3 months.
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/moving-traffic-pcn-enforcement-process
This would add weight to an out of time declaration.
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Re: Brent, 51J Failing to comply with a no entry restriction,
Harrow Rd / Oakington Manor Dr, Bailiff & PE2/PE3 Advice
DIR By: ellx_x
Date: June 14, 2026, 1:35 pm
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Yes, to confirm a few things:
I submitted an informal appeal at May 1st, within the 28 day
timeframe, and I have an email confirmation letter as proof of
submission.
Yes, I had received no notice of rejection in the mail from the
enforcement agency (Brent), most likely it was delivered to my
old address.
The proof would also in the 'key events' part of my PCN if
viewed online
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