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#Post#: 120597--------------------------------------------------
SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: msstress
Date: June 3, 2026, 9:56 am
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Hi all,
I'd really appreciate some advice.
I received a SJPN for a speeding offence.
Offence:
- 13/01/2026
- 46mph in a 40mph limit
- Metropolitan Police
I am not disputing that I was speeding and I admitted being the
driver.
What is confusing me is that I believed I had complied with the
fixed penalty process.
The timeline is:
- I returned the driver nomination form.
- I provided my driving licence number on the form.
- I signed the form and identified myself as the driver.
- I paid the £100 fixed penalty.
- The payment was later refunded on 12/05/2026.
- I have now received an SJPN.
I actually received two speeding tickets at the same location
with days of each other. I paid one online and one via post.
Both payments were taken but it was the posted letter that
hasn't been endorsed.
The witness statement says:
"The Fixed Penalty was paid but they failed to provide their
licence details for electronic endorsement and a refund was
requested."
However, I have a copy of the form showing my driving licence
number was provided. It's as clear as day. I haven't received
mail regarding the "refund" but my statement says it was
refunded 12/05/26.
I currently have 6 points on my licence and am concerned about
being disadvantaged financially when I believed I had complied
with the fixed penalty process.
My questions are:
1. Is there any argument that I should receive the equivalent of
the original fixed penalty disposal?
2. Does the fact that I provided my licence number and paid the
fixed penalty assist me?
3. How should I respond to the SJPN in these circumstances?
Many thanks.
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: Gilan02
Date: June 3, 2026, 10:44 am
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Can you put some dates on the timeline?
#Post#: 120611--------------------------------------------------
Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 3, 2026, 11:01 am
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Have updated the "READ THIS FIRST" post.
N.B. Your timeline is gibberish.
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: msstress
Date: June 3, 2026, 11:38 am
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Thanks Gilan, Andy, I have read the read this post first.
13/01/2026 – Speeding offence (46 in a 40).
11/02/2026 – Returned driver nomination form, confirmed I was
the driver and provided my driving licence number.
17/02/2026 – Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty issued.
March 2026 – Paid the £100 fixed penalty.
12/05/2026 – £100 refunded.
26/05/2026 – SJPN issued.
My concern is that I provided my licence number, paid the fixed
penalty and believed the matter had been resolved. The witness
statement says licence details were not provided for electronic
endorsement, but I have a copy of the form showing my licence
number was supplied (which they sent back to me).
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 3, 2026, 1:02 pm
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--- Quote from: msstress link ---
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> I have read the read this post first.
--- End Quote ---
Really?
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: June 3, 2026, 1:34 pm
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--- Quote from: msstress link ---
>
> I have read the read this post first.
>
--- End Quote ---
So did you do the part mentioned in the COFP section? (It's not
in your timeline)
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: msstress
Date: June 3, 2026, 3:30 pm
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Having re-read the COFP section, I now realise I completed the
driver nomination form and paid the £100 but I did not provide
the separate identification details required by the COFP (my
address). I genuinely believed I had already complied because I
had provided my licence number on the earlier form.
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: msstress
Date: June 3, 2026, 3:33 pm
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Can I ask for the court to sentence at the fixed penalty
equivalent given that I paid the fine and misunderstood the
separate COFP identification requirement?
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 3, 2026, 4:05 pm
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You can ask. The magistrates will be *very* familiar with people
appearing before them for this reason.
Interestingly (I don't get invited to dinner parties very much),
what the law says about the identification information is that
your name, date of birth and licence number must be provided to
the appropriate person. If you hold a UK driving licence, your
date of birth is part of your licence number.
The appropriate person for the purposes of identification
information is the Fixed Penalty Clerk, whereas the appropriate
person for the purpose of paying the fixed penalty is also the
Fixed Penalty Clerk. If you provided your name, date of birth
and licence number when you paid the fixed penalty, that it
would seem that you had satisfied the legal requirement, and any
prosecution would be unlawful.
North of the border, Polis Scotland don't purport to issue a
separate requirement - you provide the details when you make
payment and that is the end of it.
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Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
DIR By: msstress
Date: June 3, 2026, 4:44 pm
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Andy, thank you!!!
The form I returned identifying myself as the driver included my
full name, date of birth and driving licence number (copy
attached above).
I then paid the £100 fixed penalty.
I do not recall providing any further information when making
payment, but my understanding was that the Fixed Penalty Office
already held those details from the completed form.
Does that strengthen the argument that the identification
requirement had already been satisfied?
My address was also already printed on the form. I then paid the
£100 fixed penalty. Does that make any difference to whether the
identification requirement was satisfied?
I don't get invited to many dinner parties either 😅
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