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#Post#: 120575--------------------------------------------------
PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to comply
with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: June 3, 2026, 7:29 am
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Hello
Just received these PCNs from HAVERING council for 52M
Contravention code-Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of Vehicle. Surprisingly I have received 2 PCNs
for the same alleged contravention at exactly same time. I have
attached the PCNs copies with this. I went to pick up food and
you can barely see the signs. I believe it was bus only routes
(not bus lane) or so.
Here is the link for viewing the attachments:
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F5DnNjk0qboJGZCOQQKtNHu4aaTA615i/view?usp=sharing
Could you please advise what might be best options moving
forward?
Thanks
Md
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: June 4, 2026, 5:06 am
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Hi anyone seen this? Please reply. Wondering if my post is not
being visible to any one.
Thank you
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 4, 2026, 5:13 am
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> Hi anyone seen this? Please reply. Wondering if my post is not
being visible to any one.
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> Thank you
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Be patient! It's not yet 24 hours since your first post. The
experts here are all volunteers, giving of their own time.
#Post#: 120678--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 4, 2026, 5:46 am
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I need to see the image on the PCN as this is vital.
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: June 4, 2026, 5:53 am
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Hi
Thanks for replying. The PCNs letters are attached via google
drive link.
Much appreciated.
#Post#: 120706--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 4, 2026, 7:42 am
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So the venal and rapacious Havering Council carry on in the same
old way.
These are very well known restrictions on this forum, and there
have been some wins at London Tribunals.
1. PCN South St/Eastern Road
Their photos do not show any signs being passed, because the
signs are not at the location on the PCN. The signs are here at
the junction of South Street and Atlanta Boulevard/ictoria Road:
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/eSkHwHsGjWmHxvPM6
Note that this is an Oct 2024 view, the latest, so the signs may
have been updated since. Havering were too idle and stupid to
put the camera there instead of where it is now.
2.PCN South St/Havana Close
Their photos show you driving straight on on South Street, but
you should have turned left into Havana Close
Here is GSV, but its Dec 2020, and the sign has been changed to
a "Flying Moorbike" sign.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/A4xUMtgfebX4aWwEA
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: June 4, 2026, 10:25 am
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Yes the sign is not clear or fairly visible. What do you
recommend now, please? How do you deal with that?
Thanks
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 4, 2026, 4:55 pm
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First point is that Havering will not re-offer the discount if
you submit representations. That means if you do submit them, it
means it becomes a total no-brainer to take them to London
Tribunals, because the penalty remains the same, and there are
no additional costs. But Havering do have costs, being the cost
of preparing the evidence pack and also paying the adjudication
fee.
Looking at the two PCNs, I think the one for South Street/Havana
Close would be harder to win at LT, because you are faced with
the restriction sign, yet drove straight past it. For South
Street/Eastern Road, you need to tell us your approach to the
station underbridge. Was it a left or right turn, or just
straight over the cross roads. There has been a win here, see
Case Number 2240307021 in the LT Statutory Register for the
Environment and Traffic Adjudicators.
You might also care to look at Case Number 2250496292 which
seems to match your circumstances entirely.
So really it's all down to your attitude to risk; cough-up now
for £80 or take the double-or-quits gamble at London Tribunals.
HTML https://londontribunals.org.uk/ords/pwslive/f?p=14952:30::INITIALISE::Y::&cs=3f9wPxzIJHUaGLWf-UX5Y4-6jKORQSt-UiXcPN3KY6mzC5vvV0l2oXOsrdFhUIKfHhJt-kWNFzBMlfeu4tV81tg
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Traffic Fairies
Date: June 5, 2026, 6:37 am
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It was straight cross over road and the signs were unclear. I
will go and visit that place and take videos and pics. But this
alleged contraventions, if you look at PCN- they have captured
these at the same time. Not understanding how 2 contraventions
were made at the same time.
Thank you for kindly looking into it. I have to get back to them
by 13th of June (Appeal). Already passed the 14days period.
Please let me know.
Thanks
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Re: PCN Havering Council- 52M Contravention code-Failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of Vehicle
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 5, 2026, 5:02 pm
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PM to be sent.
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