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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 6, 2023, 7:33 am
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Noted. As I said in the pub, I do not wish to get involved re
the personality issues. Re 4 above, I do not agree.
I will let others do what they want to do behind the scenes.
Pepipoo is a wealth of information.
New posters are confused - two websites to check PMs etc. This
resulted in a confusion of who is representing whom.
Some would say this is a one-man-band show, to coin a new
phrase. Nobody doubts your expertise, cp, and I have expressed
my admiration in no uncertain terms, both personally, in
writing and on the phone.
I guess that we all appear to be arrogant, myself included, when
sitting behind a computer etc.
I am not happy that pepipoo has not yet been given the chance to
resolve its issues and that is all. There are several members
on pepipoo who are justly aggrieved about the manner of this
transference to this site. They can speak for themselves.
Thanks for your whats app message which will remain private.
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: November 6, 2023, 8:31 am
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Certainly for the area i have an interest and limited expertise
in (civil parking/ moving traffic this site is now doing the
better work, I find it no easier to use than pepipoo but no
harder either
What is happening now more than it did some years ago is people
representing user through to tribunal, this is fine and i have
taken on some cases myself but what is detrimental to the
greater community is that once a case is taken discussion on the
way forward ceases We see the outcomes but do not always see the
arguments put forward perhaps this could change
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 6, 2023, 4:49 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> New posters are confused - two websites to check PMs etc.
This resulted in a confusion of who is representing whom.
>
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[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] both the TPT and LT now required
a signed letter of authority, and I've always taken the position
that until I have a signed LoA, I won't do anything for anyone
because I am not instructed. If we all stick to that approach,
there is no risk of any duplication, assuming no OP is going to
sign LoAs for two people at the same time.
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 7, 2023, 5:37 am
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--- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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> [quote date=Sat, 4 Nov 2023 - 18:00]
> Frankly, I am not of the opinion that pepipoo should not be
usurped in this manner by the other site. It leads to
duplication of effort and, indeed, mix ups as to who is
representing whom.
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> I would also state that pepipoo is, essentially, a forum which
acts in a collegiate manner; but, sadly, it appears to me that
this is no longer the case.
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[/quote]
Andy, this is yet another perfect example of conflation. :o
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 7, 2023, 10:36 am
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There has been much discussion about the name of this forum, I'd
like to clarify that the name was chosen to be descriptive: the
primary thing we do on here is to give legal advice about
traffic law. Some members in the past (not any who have
mentioned the issue recently) had made misguided posts to the
effect that only a lawyer can give legal advice, this is not
correct, at least not in the UK.
There are some important qualifications: immigration law advice
is a reserved legal activity under the Legal Services Act 2007.
Further to that, under the provisions of Part 3B of The
Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Regulated Activities)
Order 2001
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/544/part/3B
a whole
raft of claims management activities, including legal advice,
representation and advocacy are caught by the general
prohibition under the FSMA 2000
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/8/section/19<br
/>(contravention of which is a criminal offence
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/8/section/23)
and such
activities would amount to a criminal offence if carried out
without a licence from the Financial Conduct Authority (lawyers,
charities, trade unions and a few others are exempt), but that
applies only for the following types of claim: a personal injury
claim; a financial services or financial product claim; a
housing disrepair claim; a claim for a specified benefit; a
criminal injury claim; and an employment related claim.
Therefore to seek or obtain payment in respect of any of those
causes of action is a criminal offence if one is not a legal
practitioner (as defined) or otherwise exempt, even though such
activities are not necessarily reserved legal activities under
the 2007 Act.
Legal activities that are not caught by the Legal Services Act
2007 or by the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 are a
free for all: hence anyone can give advice about traffic law
(personal injury law excepted). There is nothing on this website
that suggests the advice is being given by qualified lawyers or
that we are a law firm.
Advice about what the law is or what its effects are is legal
advice, i.e. advice about the law. That's what most of us on
here have been doing for years. If this were in any way
prohibited, there is no doubt in my mind that some of us would
have been sent off in chains to a hard labour camp a long time
ago (at least if it were up to certain enforcement authorities).
The website's name was thus chosen, at least in part, to correct
the misconception that the legal profession has an absolute
monopoly on giving legal advice, it does not.
That being said, we have at least two qualified lawyers in our
ranks and I am yet to see an instance where someone has been
given advice, either here or on pepipoo, which if given by a
lawyer could have been described as negligently given.
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 7, 2023, 3:39 pm
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Thanks for this.
My comment is as follows: you mean "lawyers" or "solicitors"?
My daughter has a Master's Degree in law and she is a solicitor.
So, I ask: what kind of lawyer and at what level? The reason
I ask is that most people regard "lawyer" as different from
"solicitor". Do you mean "barrister", "solicitor advocate" or
whatever?
As an aside cp, we are both well aware of a certain lawyer's
flawed advice given to one London Borough re bus lane
contraventions!
Finally, I know for a fact that "lawyers" do not study parking
law as part of their degree - reverting back to my daughter's
degrees, whose theses I edited occasionally!
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: November 7, 2023, 3:44 pm
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In my experience, “lawyer” is used as a term encompassing all
qualified lawyers, e.g. barristers, solicitors and so forth.
Ultimately, who cares?
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 7, 2023, 5:39 pm
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People who are not aware of your definitions and do not have
your qualifications as implied per my post.
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: November 7, 2023, 6:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> Finally
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I think that there is also a difference of opinion regarding the
meaning of the word "finally".
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Re: A new beginning
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: November 7, 2023, 6:42 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> People who are not aware of your definitions and do not have
your qualifications as implied per my post.
>
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No, it’s pretty universal. Lawyer is used as a catch all term to
describe all shades of legal professionals. But still - who
cares?
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