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Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: Acho
Date: May 31, 2026, 11:06 am
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I received a PCN from the Royal Borough of Greenwich on Friday
for an alleged bus lane contravention that occurred couple of
weeks ago.
Video evidence:
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PCN (front):
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PCN (rear):
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Street View location:
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I have carried out the same manoeuvre many times on my
motorcycle when filtering through traffic, always taking care
not to cross the line. This is the first time I have received a
PCN for it.
Does a PCN still stand if no part of the vehicle's tyres crosses
into the bus lane? Do you think it would be worth challenging
the penalty?
#Post#: 120210--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 31, 2026, 4:41 pm
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Interesting argument, but I don't think it's a winner at London
Tribunals, but see what the others say. Of course, you'd have to
risk the full PCN penalty if you take them there, and the
council will never give way on this one. I'd love to see what an
adjudicator makes of your argument, but it's your choice,
discount or possible full penalty
#Post#: 120236--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 1, 2026, 4:19 am
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Hippo is our bus lane authority and I think appeals are still
being won on lack of camera authorisation and there may be
issues with Greenwich PCNs and enforcement notices.
You could win on no contravention if the adjudicator agrees the
traffic bollard is irrelevant and the bus lane marking is the
only relevant factor.
#Post#: 120354--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: Acho
Date: June 1, 2026, 5:52 pm
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That whole spot is weird. The bus lane line is broken in that
section, so I would have thought, you are allowed to go around
the bollard via the bus lane.
#Post#: 128503--------------------------------------------------
Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: Acho
Date: August 22, 2026, 8:59 am
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The PCN challenge was rejected.
My argument was that the motorcycle never entered the bus lane.
At most the tyres were on the white line separating the bus
lane.
If I understand correctly, the council view is that even being
on the while line is enough to issue the PCN.
Is the council correct? I don't mind paying if I'm wrong. If the
council is wrong,then I will appeal to the Traffic Adjudicator.
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Many thanks
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Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 22, 2026, 1:15 pm
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I think the council is correct, sorry to say it, but you have
the right in law to test the matter, and in addition, test the
requirement in the Act in Schedule 1 7(6), which has won several
appeals now.
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Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: AmikoFrizz
Date: August 23, 2026, 1:49 pm
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I won't comment on the dangerous driving (undertaking at a
speed, passing cars on a bus lane when approaching road works
and a traffic light), that would be material for The Flame Pit
section.
Regarding the PCN.
I just saw the video evidence, not the photos.
This is one of the rare cases, if not the only one I've seen so
far, where the evidence provided by the authority (video)
actually shows upright signage passed and in place.
Not an expert here; just my point of view as an amateur. Other
senior members of this forum replied with not much hope, so
perhaps better to pay now with the discount than continue
arguing with the Council and have to pay in full later.
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Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: AmikoFrizz
Date: August 23, 2026, 1:50 pm
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Deleted (posted twice by mistake).
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Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: Acho
Date: August 23, 2026, 2:44 pm
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Thank you all for your input. I’ll just save myself the extra
hassle — I don’t need any more trouble.
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Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON
CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 25, 2026, 9:36 am
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Don't tell me you have paid? As I have won all 5 cases v
Greenwich.
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