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       PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: brucealmighty
       Date: May 29, 2026, 10:55 am
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       Hi
       I have just received a PCN for my car apparently driving in a
       bus lane.
       I watched the video clearly had no idea as didn't see signs, the
       car in front dramatically slowed down and had to move to the
       left lane, just at last bit of white line, where the buslane
       supposed to have ended.
       I have seen few threads around the same spot, in the video there
       is no sign on end of buslane either or any sign showing the
       buslane.
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       I have attached a copy of the PCN, since I only just got back
       from holiday and saw the letter, I have made an appeal using
       this notes from the link below.
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       #Post#: 120055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 29, 2026, 12:32 pm
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       You've blanked out too much.  We need to see PCN Number and car
       reg, so we can view the video, which is the sole evidence.
       There is also a technical appeal available if you take them to
       London Tribunals, but I'll let Hippocrates explain it. As this
       is Havering, they will not re-offer the discount if you submit
       reps, so it's either pay-up, or take them all the way to London
       Tribunals, because the penalty remains the same.
       #Post#: 120056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: brucealmighty
       Date: May 29, 2026, 12:40 pm
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       Thanks I didn't know it was needed, but here it is
       PCN: HG62949458
       Vehicle: D9MTE
       #Post#: 120062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 29, 2026, 2:27 pm
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       OK. Well, the video shows a clear contravention assuming all the
       signs are in position.
       So what happened here ? Why did you "have to move" to the left
       lane.
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       > the car in front dramatically slowed down and had to move to
       the left lane, just at last bit of white line, where the buslane
       supposed to have ended.
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 120063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: brucealmighty
       Date: May 29, 2026, 2:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > OK. Well, the video shows a clear contravention assuming all
       the signs are in position.
       >
       > So what happened here ? Why did you "have to move" to the left
       lane.
       > [quote]the car in front dramatically slowed down and had to
       move to the left lane, just at last bit of white line, where the
       buslane supposed to have ended.
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       The car ahead slowed down dramatically for no reason, had to
       move out of the way otherwise slam on the breaks.
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       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: May 29, 2026, 5:08 pm
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       Do not pay it. Back later.
       #Post#: 120639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: brucealmighty
       Date: June 3, 2026, 1:40 pm
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       ok thanks
       #Post#: 122222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Bus Lane - New Road AI306/ Phillip Road RM13
   DIR By: brucealmighty
       Date: June 18, 2026, 9:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
       >
       > Do not pay it. Back later.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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       I received a response from Havering today, as I suspected they
       rejected my appeal, and waive the discount right. Where do I go
       from here
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