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#Post#: 120024--------------------------------------------------
Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: pancho82
Date: May 29, 2026, 9:47 am
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Received this PCN stating that the car was parked for 19 hours,
when in fact the vehicle was only there for a matter of minutes.
The photo that they submitted as 'evidence' clearly shows that
the vehicle was still moving. I have no idea where they got the
19 hours from!
There doesn't seem to be many options in way of appealing. Can
someone point me in the right direction please?
Thanks!
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1br0Hn_sedtK0RO84-drakG7Ir4wUAf2F/view?usp=drive_link
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z0NxL7HX5kHKTuCxDobhgJhUrTbYjkev/view?usp=drive_link
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MEpUXmXjOv2J026pKpvynRmrRFaMtNU_/view?usp=drive_link
#Post#: 120027--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: jfollows
Date: May 29, 2026, 9:52 am
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Is this a “double dip”, that’s to say did you visit 19 hours
later but they missed your earlier exit?
#Post#: 120029--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: Dave65
Date: May 29, 2026, 9:57 am
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Well over the 14 days to claim against the keeper.
However, they make no mention of the PoFA to claim.
#Post#: 120031--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: pancho82
Date: May 29, 2026, 10:07 am
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--- Quote from: Dave65 link ---
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> Well over the 14 days to claim against the keeper.
> However, they make no mention of the PoFA to claim.
>
--- End Quote ---
The issue date on the PCN is only 21st May so is still within
the 14 days for reduced payment, and 28 days for appeal.
#Post#: 120034--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: May 29, 2026, 10:34 am
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I cannot access either image?
#Post#: 120043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: jfollows
Date: May 29, 2026, 11:08 am
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--- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
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> I cannot access either image?
>
--- End Quote ---
Not just you, nor can I.
“Permissions” need to be set appropriately I think.
#Post#: 120046--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: pancho82
Date: May 29, 2026, 11:39 am
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--- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
>
> I cannot access either image?
>
--- End Quote ---
Ah apologies! Have changed the access so you should be able to
view now
#Post#: 120047--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: pancho82
Date: May 29, 2026, 11:41 am
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
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> Is this a “double dip”, that’s to say did you visit 19 hours
later but they missed your earlier exit?
>
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Ah yes I think this might be what's happened! The driver did
return the next day, but still didn't park there. I guess this
should be easy enough to explain? There doesn't seem to be much
opportunity to explain yourself when you try to appeal.
#Post#: 120050--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: jfollows
Date: May 29, 2026, 12:01 pm
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I would personally refer them to
HTML https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130426-2.pdf<br
/>and tell them I won’t be paying, per
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> NOTE 1: The manual quality control check for remote ANPR and
CCTV systems is
> particularly important for detecting issues such as “double
dipping”, where image camera
> systems might have failed to accurately record each instance
when a vehicle enters and
> leaves controlled land, and for checking images that might
have been taken other than by
> a trained parking attendant (see Clause 15). The manual check
might also reveal where
> “tailgating” – vehicles passing a camera close together – is a
problem, suggesting
> relocation of the camera might be necessary.
--- End Quote ---
It’s their incompetence and lack of a proper quality control
check which has led to this.
#Post#: 120087--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car
park, Gosport
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: May 30, 2026, 2:22 am
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Before to make the double dip appeal but only as Registered
Keeper.
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