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       SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: May 26, 2026, 9:30 am
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       Posting this for a friend that is having difficulty. They are
       the registered owner of the vehicle.
       -Parked on 18/01/26 and paid for parking (payment confirmation
       shown below)
       -Received Parking Charge from Saba dated 28/01 for £100 from
       ZZPS
       -Sent ZZPS copy of parking payment confirmation on 13/02 - no
       response received
       -Sent an appeal on 03/03 - received this response:
       Thank you for your recent online appeal, all comments have been
       noted accordingly.
       I note you state you made payment but from the information
       provided we are unable to locate your payment against your
       vehicle registration.
       So, we can look to locate your payment please confirm if you
       made payment on site at a machine or by the application?
       If payment made by the application, please confirm:
       •  The email address attached to the application.
       •  The telephone number attached to the payment.
       •  Any other vehicles on the application.
       If you made payment on site at the machine, please confirm:
       •  The time you made payment (as you drove in/out)
       •  The last 4 digits from the card details used to make payment.
       •  Any other vehicle that you use that you may have entered in
       error.
       I have held the account for 7 days to allow the requested
       evidence to be provided.
       -Received letter from ZZPS dated 20/04 warning of enforcement
       action to be taken
       -Received letter from GCTT dated 05/05 warning of transfer to
       solicitors
       What are their options at this stage? I am not clear whether
       they responded to the initial appeals email requesting the
       payment information and whether there was perhaps an error when
       inputting the location number whilst making payment.
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       #Post#: 119762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 26, 2026, 9:35 am
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       There’s no register of owners, only of keepers.
       But that’s a nit.
       If you can’t tell us whether or not they responded, that’s not
       helpful. Either get them to post or get the details please.
       However Finchley Central won’t be “relevant land” for the
       purposes of PoFA 2012 so what did the appeal say? Was the driver
       identified in the appeal or anything else?
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       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: May 26, 2026, 9:43 am
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       Keeper, not owner. My mistake
       I have requested more info - unfortunately a bit technically
       challenged so not able to find info. Will update in due course
       if more info comes available.
       They have confirmed they used payment machine on site.
       Not sure why it is relevant whether they have identified
       themselves as driver if payment was genuinely made and the error
       seems to be on the Operator's side?
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       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 26, 2026, 9:47 am
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       The driver will be pursued, if known, but they will attempt to
       transfer liability to the registered keeper using PoFA 2012 if
       not. Land is not “relevant land” for the purposes of the
       legislation if it’s a TfL car park, so they can’t use it.
       If the driver is not identified, it is irrelevant whether in
       fact the driver and the registered keeper are the same person.
       If the driver is identified, then this point becomes irrelevant.
       If the appeal said “I did X” then the driver is identified.
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       #Post#: 119765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: May 26, 2026, 10:07 am
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       They appear to be claiming PoFA keeper liability at a site where
       PoFA cannot be applied - this is a breach of the Code of
       Practice and a breach of KODOE.
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       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 26, 2026, 11:13 am
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       Yes.
       Standard parking company tactics to write untruths like this,
       knowing that the majority of their victims won’t care or will
       believe their lies.
       The fact is that they, more than just about anyone, know what
       isn’t “relevant land” but if they told the truth, fewer people
       would pay up.
       #Post#: 119772--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 26, 2026, 11:39 am
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       To the original poster: ZZPS and CGTT are just the opposite
       sides of the same desk, and can be ignored. However, in the
       absence of anything else, Saba will likely issue a court claim
       which will have to be defended. If the driver was not
       identified, then the registered keeper can not be held liable,
       despite their claims otherwise. If the driver was identified,
       which I’m guessing was the case, then the driver will be pursued
       for breach of contract based on the terms communicated by the
       signs and entered into by parking. So what would the driver’s
       defence then be?
       Based on the dates you have given, I am also guessing that
       Saba’s 7 day hold has long expired.
       Their options are essentially to pay or be taken to court. In
       the latter case, if a defence can be made, there is a good
       chance the case will never actually get to court, but there will
       be a paperwork requirement until this ends.
       But you may be able to fill in the blanks for us before a
       decision has to be made.
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       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: Reentrant
       Date: May 26, 2026, 11:40 am
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       I thought railway property was now "relevant land" following the
       Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Definition of Relevant Land)
       (Amendment) Order 2025
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       Re: SABA Park Services Ltd - Finchley Central Car park - paid
       parking and received fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 26, 2026, 11:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Reentrant link ---
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       > I thought railway property was now "relevant land" following
       the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Definition of Relevant
       Land) (Amendment) Order 2025
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       --- End Quote ---
       Not TfL land, no.
       See
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