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       #Post#: 119741--------------------------------------------------
       APCOA at East Midlands Airport Pick Up / Drop Off Zone
   DIR By: SpongeBob
       Date: May 26, 2026, 6:31 am
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       Hi all.
       Just checking that the following is still the correct response
       to APCOA for NtK at East Midlands Airport Pick Up / Drop Off
       Zone
       "I am the registered keeper. APCOA cannot hold a registered
       keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is
       under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will
       be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because
       East Midlands Airport (EMA) is not 'relevant land'
       If EMA wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport
       Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another
       matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is
       also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner
       and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a
       penalty. It is created for APCOA’s own profit (as opposed to a
       bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has
       relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver
       only.
       The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
       been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
       of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
       APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
       complete waste of time and cancel the PCN."
       Many Thanks in advance
       #Post#: 119766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA at East Midlands Airport Pick Up / Drop Off Zone
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: May 26, 2026, 10:07 am
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       Yes.
       #Post#: 119768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA at East Midlands Airport Pick Up / Drop Off Zone
   DIR By: SpongeBob
       Date: May 26, 2026, 10:38 am
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       Thanks InterCity125
       #Post#: 121154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA at East Midlands Airport Pick Up / Drop Off Zone
   DIR By: SpongeBob
       Date: June 8, 2026, 10:57 am
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       Cancelled today thanks
       #Post#: 121261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA at East Midlands Airport Pick Up / Drop Off Zone
   DIR By: Coalman
       Date: June 9, 2026, 6:28 am
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       Hi everybody!  I had a similar occurrence at the petrol station
       at East Mids.  I received the customary PCN from a firm called
       VCS.  This was my reply to them....
       ( They have a drop down list for you to choose a reason for the
       appeal )
       *  Despite the drop down reason given is ''there was no signage
       at the car park'', I cannot say for sure  if there was signage
       or not, I can only state that I DID NOT SEE any signage.
       However, and more importantly, I am the registered keeper but
       VCS cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged
       contravention on land that is under statutory control, which
       East Midlands Airport certainly is. As a matter of fact and law,
       VCS will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions
       because East Midlands Airport is not 'relevant land'.
       If East Midlands Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable
       under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift
       and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not
       pleaded, it is also not legally possible because VCS is not the
       Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never
       attempts to be a penalty. It is created for VCS's own profit (as
       opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and
       VCS has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the
       driver only.
       The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
       been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
       of the law . Your NTK can only hold the driver liable. VCS  have
       no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete
       waste of time and cancel the PCN.  VCS has issued an invoice
       that, by law, can only hold the driver liable, not the keeper.
       Please note the Protection of Freedoms Act2012(Sch 4), confirmed
       in Appeal Court judgment VCS v Ian Edward.  I therefore, I
       require you to cancel the PCN and expunge my personal data from
       your records.
       signed
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       This is an appeal by the registered keeper - No driver details
       will *ever* be given. Please do not bother with your known
       fishing expedition in an attempt to get driver details.  It is
       known parking firms do this to try and get around the fact when
       there is no keeper liability in play. (and never can be under
       POFA)
       Three weeks later the owner of the car received this:
       We refer to correspondence received from you concerning the
       above numbered Charge Notice.
       Please note that responsibility for this Charge lies with the
       driver of the vehicle at the time the parking contravention
       was observed. However, we are unable to ascertain who the driver
       was on the date in questions from the information
       given within your appeal.
       In order for us to process your appeal correctly, please follow
       the instructions below:
       1. If you were the driver on the day in question, please confirm
       this within your next correspondence.
       2. Notify the driver of the vehicle that they will need to
       appeal to us directly, including their FULL NAME (Forename
       and Surname) and a valid FULL SERVICEABLE ADDRESS within 14
       days.
       3. If you are representing the driver we require a signed and
       dated statement from the driver of the vehicle confirming
       that you are authorised to appeal on his/her behalf; this needs
       to be an original signature and not a photocopy or a
       stamp. The statement MUST contain the drivers FULL NAME
       (Forename and Surname) and a valid FULL
       SERVICEABLE ADDRESS.
       Please ensure that correspondence is submitted through the
       portal www.myparkingcharge.co.uk in order to correctly
       adhere with the appeals process.
       Is there a templet for a reply / another appeal, or do I just
       tell them to jog-on?
       Thank you in anticipation for your help.
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