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       Euro Car Parks Hornsey Rise Shell Petrol Station Car Wash
   DIR By: Goretechre
       Date: May 19, 2026, 5:35 am
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       Hello all!
       I was queuing around the rear of this petrol station to use
       their car wash, 3 cars were ahead of me and by the time I came
       out over an hour had passed.  I did see signage stating that you
       must register if you’re parking in the forecourt.  At the front
       of the petrol station there are EV charging parking bays and I
       assumed they pertained to these. I later received a PCN stating
       ANPR caught me not registering my stay.  I appealed and my
       argument was that I was paying for a service and queuing
       therefore not parking.  The definition of the word forecourt
       also means and area to the front of a building.
       I believe this is the signage:
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       Please can you advise how i should proceed?
       Thanks!
       Paul
       Anyway their reply was as follows:
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       > Having carefully considered the evidence you provided, I can
       confirm that the parking charge notice
       > was issued correctly. In accordance with the British Parking
       Association Single Code of Practice, the
       > fee has been reduced to an administration charge of £20.00,
       which is now due within 14 days from the
       > date of this communication.
       > The site uses either Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR)
       or it is patrolled by a Euro
       > Car Parks employee.
       > Where ANPR is used, cameras capture an image of vehicles
       entering and leaving the car
       > park to calculate their length of stay on site.
       > Your appeal states that you were a legitimate user to the
       site, however, when using this
       > location, you are required to adhere to the terms and
       conditions of the car park as stipulated
       > on the signage.
       > The signage clearly states that a Parking Charge Notice (PCN)
       will be issued if a vehicle is
       > found to be in breach of these terms and conditions.
       > Please be advised that car wash users are required to provide
       their details to the store so that
       > they can be added to an exemption list for the additional time
       of stay. Your details had not
       > been provided to Euro Car Parks and so the notice was issued
       correctly.
       > Your appeal has been rejected for the reasons listed above.
       > Please be advised that any further Parking Charge Notices
       issued for the same breach of the terms
       > and conditions a reduced fee may no longer apply. Upon failure
       to pay the administration fee within
       > 14 days, the value of the PCN at the time of the appeal being
       logged will be due.
       > Once payment of the £20.00 administration fee has been
       received, (payment within the correct time
       > frame is required), the PCN will be CLOSED, and no further
       action will be required
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       Re: Euro Car Parks Hornsey Rise Shell Petrol Station Car Wash
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 19, 2026, 5:41 am
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       Are there clear signs
       --- Quote ---
       > that car wash users are required to provide their details to
       the store so that they can be added to an exemption list for the
       additional time of stay.
       --- End Quote ---
       ?
       As you say, you were not parking in the forecourt.
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       Re: Euro Car Parks Hornsey Rise Shell Petrol Station Car Wash
   DIR By: Goretechre
       Date: May 19, 2026, 5:56 am
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       Yes there is clear signage,
  HTML https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nuwqC_KNKqaJNtm2ua2UpaHJXH4niNxLrfo3mzX9zw/edit?usp=drivesdk
       upon driving in i saw a guy polishing his washed car in a
       parking bay and assumed they meant this parking and ignored the
       sign as i was indeed paying for a service. I think it might be
       easier this time to pay that 20 quid!
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       Re: Euro Car Parks Hornsey Rise Shell Petrol Station Car Wash
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 19, 2026, 5:58 am
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       I agree with you.
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