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#Post#: 118684--------------------------------------------------
Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area, yellow
line in front of own driveway
DIR By: helpmeplease22
Date: May 14, 2026, 9:34 am
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Hi all - I got this ticket... On a yellow line, in front of own
driveway, outside of controlled hours.
PCN photo
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/mbN4TJ.jpg
Car relative to driveway
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/JrSvjL.jpg
More context showing position on street
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/uiYEjn.jpg
They are arguing contravention code 28.
Should I pay it ? They already rejected informal challenge but
their response made no sense as they rejected because I was
parked in front of a dropped kerb (which is a different
contravention code).
#Post#: 118687--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area, yellow line
in front of own driveway
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 14, 2026, 9:59 am
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Forget the yellow line. The contravention is being adjacent to a
raised carriageway to the footway, usually enforced on what is
deemed a pedestrian crossing or vehicle access area.
We need to see the council's pics so post them or tell us the
PCN number and car VRM.
Also what is the Goggle Maps location.
Also post your challenge and their rejection.
#Post#: 118691--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area, yellow line
in front of own driveway
DIR By: helpmeplease22
Date: May 14, 2026, 10:20 am
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Council Photo 1
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/YMdKxE.jpg
Council Photo 2
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/H6thnA.jpg
Council Photo 3
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/GIhQvM.jpg
Council Photo 4
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/rtaCj6.jpg
Council Photo 5
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/BmSZPw.jpg
Google Maps
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/BZbUG4ZygQLAsNYq7
I don't have a copy of my challenge, but their rejection letter
is here
HTML https://i.snipboard.io/NC51Ln.jpg.
#Post#: 118716--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: helpmeplease22
Date: May 14, 2026, 4:38 pm
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Anyone have any thoughts based on the above ? Thank you in
advance !
#Post#: 118717--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 14, 2026, 4:53 pm
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Their letter makes no sense as it is template for a code 27
lowered footway, whereas the contravention you have is for code
28, where the carriageway has been raised to footway level.
There are two likely reasons for the PCN.
There is a table at the junction there and they consider the
whole table is a pedestrian crossing.
Your car was blocking a driveway - that's OK if it's yours alone
but it's a contravention if the driveway is shared.
#Post#: 118720--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: helpmeplease22
Date: May 14, 2026, 5:12 pm
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Right but wouldn't that table need to be signed somehow ?
Is there a 'pedestrian crossing' that exists that is not signed
in any way ? I.e. no road markings or signage?
It's my own private driveway.
#Post#: 118738--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 15, 2026, 4:17 am
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There are no signs for dropped/raised footway crossings but you
often see dropped kerbs at the corner of roads and obviously
some have tactile paving.
But we have seen these entire junction tables upheld as a big
pedestrian crossing area at the tribunal.
I would go on with this not least because their rejection is
daft although we don't know what your challenge was. We don't
know why the PCN was issued (see law below).
Are you the registered keeper and has the logbook gor the
correct name and address.
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The law
86 Prohibition of parking at dropped footways etc.
(1)In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on
the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge
where—
(a)the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet
the level of the carriageway for the purpose of—
(i)assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,
(ii)assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or
(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway
across the footway, cycle track or verge; or
(b)the carriageway has, for a purpose within paragraph (a)(i) to
(iii), been raised to meet the level of the footway, cycle track
or verge.
This is subject to the following exceptions.
(2)The first exception is where the vehicle is parked wholly
within a designated parking place or any other part of the
carriageway where parking is specifically authorised.
A “designated parking place” means a parking place designated by
order under section 6, 9, 32(1)(b) or 45 of the Road Traffic
Regulation Act 1984 (c. 27).
(3)The second exception is where the vehicle is parked outside
residential premises by or with the consent (but not consent
given for reward) of the occupier of the premises.
This exception does not apply in the case of a shared driveway.
#Post#: 118740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 15, 2026, 4:37 am
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The photos aren't very clear IMO.
Questions in my mind:
Does the raised carriageway extend beyond the your crossover;
Was any part of your car parked anywhere on the raised
carriageway other than adjacent to your crossover?
Raised carriageways can work in both directions, as here i.e.
facilitate pedestrians crossing and providing kerb-free access
to crossovers.
IMO, you would need to have been parked wholly within the
boundaries of your crossover to claim the exemption.
(edited to change my repeated misuse of 'raised footway' to
'raised carriageway')
#Post#: 118752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: Neil B
Date: May 15, 2026, 7:32 am
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--- Quote from: helpmeplease22 link ---
>
> Anyone have any thoughts based on the above ? Thank you in
advance !
>
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Totally confused.
Why do you continue to obscure essential details, preventing us
looking for ourselves and understanding the bigger picture?
The supposed raised carriageway appears to be a standard speed
hump? The rejection is nonsense as has been said.
But how can we help you make a case if we don't understand the
situation?
#Post#: 118762--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - PCN 28 - Parking in a special enforcement area,
yellow line in front of own driveway
DIR By: helpmeplease22
Date: May 15, 2026, 9:02 am
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I've shared all the photos from the counsel and a google maps
link.
What else would you like to see ?
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