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#Post#: 118618--------------------------------------------------
Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: Neil B
Date: May 13, 2026, 1:14 pm
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I would be phoning TEC to check what application you need to
make.
Making an OOT application when you might not need to can get
messy.
Questions you need to ask >
When was the debt registered with TEC?
#Post#: 118619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: May 13, 2026, 1:29 pm
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--- Quote ---
> However in respect of my initial post; my question was how do
I deal with Gladstones Aspect - is there a formal appeal that
needs to be submitted or is the PE2/PE3 forms sufficient?
>
>
>
> Please refrain from suggesting to simply pay PCNs - that is
not advice and also therefore defeats the entire purpose of this
forum. If everyone was to just pay their PCN as you suggest,
this forum would not have a purpose.
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It is not a case of" simply paying" PCNs.
The policy of this forum is to prevent people paying PCNs
unnecessarily. So where there is some prospect of successful
appeal, we strongly advise against paying, as paying closes the
case.
However, there are two main categories where payment is advised
to prevent the charge increasing, and a successful appeal would
lead to refunds. These are:
1) Where a car is impounded, nonpayment of the PCN and release
fees leads to non-release of the vehicle and incurring
additional daily srorage fees.
2) Where bailiffs have become involved, as each subsequent
visit/clamping /removal leads to greatly increased charges.
Payment prevents increased fees and is refunded if the PCN is
reset and successfully appealed.
#Post#: 118628--------------------------------------------------
Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 13, 2026, 3:48 pm
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I think Bromley and Bexley have been using Gladstones for awhile
and it's possible this letter is illegal.
[member=7]mrmustard[/member] may know more.
HTML https://lbbspending.blogspot.com
Given the dates on the letter it does seem like an order for
recovery was issued and is now out of time but the letter is as
said out of process.
#Post#: 118676--------------------------------------------------
Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: greatparking101
Date: May 14, 2026, 8:11 am
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Confirmed out of time. PE2 + PE3 to be submitted.
Whats the play with Gladstones?
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Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: May 14, 2026, 8:41 am
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Gladstones need to be reported to the Solicitors Regulatory
Authority. A county court claim cannot be started for a PCN,
there is a prescribed legal procedure
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Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: Neil B
Date: May 14, 2026, 8:51 am
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--- Quote from: greatparking101 link ---
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> Whats the play with Gladstones?
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That was your original question and I should have answered >
NOTHING
Once your application is made then Bromley should inform them to
pause all action; not that they will be taking any action
anyway. They would first need to engage a bailiff company.
Please post a draft here of what you intend to write on both
forms. It is very important to get it right and address relevant
matters.
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Re: Yellow Box Contravention - LBC from Gladstones - How to
appeal
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 14, 2026, 8:51 am
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2 separate procedures in play here.
1. Enforcement of the PCN, see here:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/moving-traffic-pcn-enforcement-process
This is the one in which you submit a PE2 and PE3 to the Traffic
Enforcement Centre.
2. How the council may pursue the debt after the Order for
Recovery using enforcement agents (bailiffs). A different legal
procedure entirely. It is this procedure which the council,
through their agents, Gladstones, have messed up.
But you must focus on your out of time application which, if
accepted, would take Gladstones out of the picture for the
moment, but you could still possibly get some leverage out of
their error later.
But the PE route is your priority IMO.
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