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#Post#: 118536--------------------------------------------------
Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: greatparking101
Date: May 13, 2026, 6:01 am
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Hi all new here apologies for any mistakes in advance.
Ill keep it brief.
Parked in Sainsburys in Parent and Todler Bay - partner and kid
went inside driver remained in the vehicle.
Attendant came over said cant park there, driver explained the
above.
Attendant said okay walked off - then sneakily prints out a PCN
and attempts to stick it to the vehicle.
Driver then drives off after being aware of the attendants
intention.
NTK in the post to RK. No evidence available online on ECP
website.
No appeal made.
Sainsburys claiming they do not have facility to cancel PCN.
DROPBOX LINK FOR NTK
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xx2oeo39ejs1oowc3815l/IMG_4023.JPG?rlkey=1txm4pjptiw02a4epwppayhav&st=ipmbl3hf&dl=0
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xx2oeo39ejs1oowc3815l/IMG_4023.JPG?rlkey=1txm4pjptiw02a4epwppayhav&st=ipmbl3hf&dl=0
Any information is welcome, prefer to deal with the situation
now rather than letting letters pile up.
Thanks in advance.
#Post#: 118543--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: Sander333
Date: May 13, 2026, 6:36 am
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This looks like a further notice as discount period as no longer
applicable?
Have you appealed to Sainsbury’s head office without naming the
driver.
If as you say you were parked in compliance why did the warden
only wait 5 seconds and why did you need to drive off without
the toddler on board. What age on the signs is a toddler you
need to show these,
#Post#: 118568--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: Dave65
Date: May 13, 2026, 8:51 am
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You say there was a toddler present.
The warden says there was not!
Is the partner prepared to witness they were present with
toddler?
#Post#: 118571--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: DrSatan
Date: May 13, 2026, 9:23 am
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Does that fact that the OP left before the NtD could be given
hold any water? Have ECP used the 'wrong' NtK?
#Post#: 118654--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 14, 2026, 3:56 am
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--- Quote from: DrSatan link ---
>
> Does that fact that the OP left before the NtD could be given
hold any water? Have ECP used the 'wrong' NtK?
>
--- End Quote ---
The Dropbox link doesn't appear to be working, so we'll need to
see the NtK to check. Driving away from an attendant issuing a
notice is not a magic bullet, but it does mean one wasn't served
on the driver. They'd therefore need to go straight to a Notice
to Keeper that's compliant with paragraph 9 of PoFA.
A more straightforward line of argument, which can be used
alongside any PoFA argument, is that the bay was being used
correctly by two parents with a toddler. That one parent
remained in the vehicle wouldn't appear to alter that fact.
#Post#: 118660--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: greatparking101
Date: May 14, 2026, 4:59 am
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--- Quote from: greatparking101 link ---
>
> Hi all new here apologies for any mistakes in advance.
>
> Ill keep it brief.
>
> Parked in Sainsburys in Parent and Todler Bay - partner and
kid went inside driver remained in the vehicle.
>
> Attendant came over said cant park there, driver explained the
above.
>
> Attendant said okay walked off - then sneakily prints out a
PCN and attempts to stick it to the vehicle.
>
> Driver then drives off after being aware of the attendants
intention.
>
> NTK in the post to RK. No evidence available online on ECP
website.
>
> No appeal made.
>
> Sainsburys claiming they do not have facility to cancel PCN.
>
> DROPBOX LINK FOR NTK
>
>
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xx2oeo39ejs1oowc3815l/IMG_4023.JPG?rlkey=1txm4pjptiw02a4epwppayhav&st=ipmbl3hf&dl=0
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xx2oeo39ejs1oowc3815l/IMG_4023.JPG?rlkey=1txm4pjptiw02a4epwppayhav&st=ipmbl3hf&dl=0
>
> Any information is welcome, prefer to deal with the situation
now rather than letting letters pile up.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
--- End Quote ---
UPDATED LINK
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7jzwdm5lm4wjmzvg7xoiu/Photo-13-05-2026-12-00-04.jpg?rlkey=qdqy8c8rn7re0wtzqk4q21wnp&st=jfnxob1g&dl=0
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7jzwdm5lm4wjmzvg7xoiu/Photo-13-05-2026-12-00-04.jpg?rlkey=qdqy8c8rn7re0wtzqk4q21wnp&st=jfnxob1g&dl=0
#Post#: 118661--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: greatparking101
Date: May 14, 2026, 5:00 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> [quote author=DrSatan link=topic=10812.msg118571#msg118571
date=1778682195]
> Does that fact that the OP left before the NtD could be given
hold any water? Have ECP used the 'wrong' NtK?
>
--- End Quote ---
The Dropbox link doesn't appear to be working, so we'll need to
see the NtK to check. Driving away from an attendant issuing a
notice is not a magic bullet, but it does mean one wasn't served
on the driver. They'd therefore need to go straight to a Notice
to Keeper that's compliant with paragraph 9 of PoFA.
A more straightforward line of argument, which can be used
alongside any PoFA argument, is that the bay was being used
correctly by two parents with a toddler. That one parent
remained in the vehicle wouldn't appear to alter that fact.
[/quote]
Thanks for your reply - I have posted an updated link above
#Post#: 118662--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: May 14, 2026, 5:05 am
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Please also show us the back.
#Post#: 118664--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks - Sainsburys - Parent and Toddler Bay
DIR By: greatparking101
Date: May 14, 2026, 5:09 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Please also show us the back.
>
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9dk0pnsgy28k1gckgbtoo/Photo-14-05-2026-11-08-09.jpg?rlkey=xtx948wkyjk6zpty3x0na51si&st=yn2ert04&dl=0
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9dk0pnsgy28k1gckgbtoo/Photo-14-05-2026-11-08-09.jpg?rlkey=xtx948wkyjk6zpty3x0na51si&st=yn2ert04&dl=0
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