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       #Post#: 118548--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: May 13, 2026, 7:00 am
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       Adding to the above, the key issue is not the start of
       discontinuous observation, it's whether at the time of
       contravention stated on the PCN you were in contravention of the
       cited grounds.
       IMO, no.
       Time of contravention: 12.08
       Parking rights relied upon: max. 2 hours.
       Time at which you relied upon those rights: 12.05(according to
       the council).
       Time so parked: 3 minutes.
       Time allowed: 2 hours.
       The council's weird logic is that if during a period of
       discontinuous observation a vehicle is covered by a permit and
       then removed then the period parked under the free parking for 2
       hours grounds commences when you first parked.
       Can't see an adjudicator going for this one.
       Your reps can be a condensed version of the facts i.e. you
       contend that your period of parking under the free for 2 hours
       criterion(breach of which is the cited contravention) commenced
       at 12.05 whereas the council claim it was 9.54.
       It would be interesting to see the actual provision within the
       TRO.
       #Post#: 118689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: Steve from Beverley
       Date: May 14, 2026, 10:17 am
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       Many thanks for all the replies
       I have attempted to contact the council, to request a copy of
       the TRO
       The only number available to the general public is Customer
       Services
       After spending 35 minutes on hold, 10 minutes explaining what I
       wanted and why. I get transferred to a telephone that
       immediately goes to an answer machine
       The 10 minutes grace period is interesting and has given me food
       for thought
       I will keep you informed
       Steve
       #Post#: 118693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: May 14, 2026, 10:27 am
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       You may have more success with the TRO if you request it in
       writing as part of a follow up to your informal challenge
       (although it sounds like this will be held on file until they
       receive your formal representations).
       #Post#: 118978--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: Steve from Beverley
       Date: May 17, 2026, 1:35 pm
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       On Friday I managed to get through to the correct department via
       email
       I was asked why I wanted the TRO, my reply was that I was
       expecting an NtO and advice I had taken indicated that I would
       not be able to write a Formal Challenge without a copy of the
       TRO
       They said they would send me a copy by post, I asked if it could
       be emailed, the reply was it was too large????
       Anyway Saturday morning the NtO and the TRO arrive, separate
       envelopes
       The TRO is 78 pages (separate images), I can convert to a single
       pdf file, but where do I host it
       Notice to owner
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       Many Thanks
       Steve
       #Post#: 118982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: May 17, 2026, 2:10 pm
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       Do you have Google drive or similar? How big is the pdf file
       size?
       #Post#: 118996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: May 17, 2026, 4:11 pm
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       What is the name of the TRO? The TPT (the tribunal in this case)
       have an online library of deposited TROs, so the name should be
       in the citation references at the start of the order.
       #Post#: 119000--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: Steve from Beverley
       Date: May 17, 2026, 4:27 pm
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       Yes I have Google Drive
       Adobe File size is 184 MB
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       Thanks
       #Post#: 119001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: May 17, 2026, 4:29 pm
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       Can you host it there and share a link on here?
       #Post#: 119007--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: Steve from Beverley
       Date: May 17, 2026, 6:31 pm
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       I'll have a go tomorrow
       Thanks
       Steve
       #Post#: 119017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit
       two cars
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: May 18, 2026, 3:25 am
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       Unfortunately, nothing is held on the Tribunal website
       post-2019!
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