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       Euro Car Parks Parking Charge Notice time in car park 16 minutes
       £100
   DIR By: gumwn17dc@mozmail.com
       Date: May 8, 2026, 8:10 am
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       As keeper of a vehicle, I received a £100 Parking Charge Notice.
       I was not the driver at the time of the alleged parking charge
       notice. I have viewed the dashcam footage from the vehicle
       however. It appears the vehicle entered the car park and was
       immediately stuck in traffic to exit the car park. The driver
       and the passenger, while in traffic, swapped places (so that the
       passenger could do a driving lesson with L plates).
       It took 16 minutes from entering the car park to leave and at no
       time was the vehicle parked, merely moving forward in traffic
       throughout until exit.
       However, I am only able to view footage on the dashcam and when
       I try to save the video footage from the SD card it cannot be
       read. I tried videoing the dashcam playback from the dashcam on
       my phone but after trying to save it, it can no longer even be
       viewed on the dashcam.
       The Parking Charge Notice has photographs of entry and exit of
       the car park only, not usage of a parking bay (obviously, as one
       wasn't used). Furthermore, this photography seems to be ANPR
       despite no signage saying ANPR is in use.
       If relevant, there were many empty parking bays in the car park,
       so there was no "loss" to the business as a result of the
       driver's supposed "parking" either.
       Because the Parking Charge Notice doesn't specify the period of
       "parking" (as it cannot), only the entry and exit times of the
       car park, it is not compliant with Schedule 4 of the Protection
       of Freedoms Act 2012 and I intend not to pass on either of the
       driver details as a result.  But were this not so who would I
       name as the driver anyway as there was more than one?
       Also the Notice To Keeper states payment must be made within 28
       days of the date issued rather than as statutorily required
       within 28 days of receipt, so is non-compliant under POFA 2012
       Paragraph 9. There is an 800 character limit for appeal on the
       Euro Car Parks website so I was thinking about submitting the
       following:
       "I am the registered keeper and I am not required to name the
       driver as you have not met POFA Schedule 4. Your monetary claim
       is disproportionate, punitive and unjustifiable in total. Any
       contractual breach can have caused no financial loss whatever to
       you or to the land owner. I have not entered into a contract
       with you. You are using ANPR camera systems but this is not
       clearly advertised on the signage. Your civil parking notice
       does not state either a VAT registration number or an invoice
       reference number. Your notice wrongly requires payment to be
       made within 28 days of issue which is contrary to statutory
       requirement that provides a period of 28 days from date of
       receipt. The PCN does not show when and how any parking offence
       took place, only supposed entry and exit of the car park."
       Any advice would be welcome.
       #Post#: 118109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Euro Car Parks Parking Charge Notice time in car park 16
       minutes £100
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: May 8, 2026, 8:22 am
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       thread carefully and provide as much of the information it asks
       for as you are able to: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking
       Charges Forum guide
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       Re: Euro Car Parks Parking Charge Notice time in car park 16
       minutes £100
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 9, 2026, 2:36 am
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       Definitely do not use that appeal.
       The Supreme Court (Beavis) ruled that parking charges are legal
       and justifiable and any argument about no loss incurred won’t
       fly.
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