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       Birmingham City Council PCN Corporation Street at Legge Street
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   DIR By: mrjaxey
       Date: May 7, 2026, 1:32 pm
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       Hi,
       I visited Bham on the 17/04 for a night of pubs, fully intending
       to leave before midnight. I payed the CAZ fee as required before
       leaving my car and went about my evening. We left before
       midnight, though our departure was delayed by a friend of mine,
       who I was going to be driving home from Bham, having a genuine
       mental health 'crisis' as you could call it. This delayed our
       departure by a short amount of time and distracted me from the
       exact time which we left the CAZ, as I was attending to my
       friend and made anxious by the situation as a whole.
       Subsequently I was issued a PCN with the timestamp 00:01 on the
       18/04/2026. Not joking - a 1 minute overstay.
       I have visited Bham CAZ numerous times and always payed on time.
       With the facts in mind - shall I submit a representation? Its
       worth noting Im a student. Avoiding a 60quid fine would be very
       helpful, but recieving a 120quid find because BHam council
       rejected my representation outside of the courtesy window would
       make life difficult.
       what would you do? shall I submit a representation with evidence
       of my payment on the
       17/04/2026?
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       #Post#: 118065--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham City Council PCN Corporation Street at Legge
       Street (outbound)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 7, 2026, 4:43 pm
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       Well, if you can't even afford the £60 then maybe pay-up,
       because Bham don't reoffer the discount whne rejecting
       representations, but in my view, you would win at the Traffic
       Penalty Tribunal on a de minimis appeal basis, but to do this,
       you must risk the full £120.  Yes, Bham are venal and rapacious,
       like most councils.
       #Post#: 118070--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham City Council PCN Corporation Street at Legge
       Street (outbound)
   DIR By: mrjaxey
       Date: May 7, 2026, 4:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > Well, if you can't even afford the £60 then maybe pay-up,
       because Bham don't reoffer the discount whne rejecting
       representations, but in my view, you would win at the Traffic
       Penalty Tribunal on a de minimis appeal basis, but to do this,
       you must risk the full £120.  Yes, Bham are venal and rapacious,
       like most councils.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi,
       Thanks for your reply. I've come to a similar conclusion.. at
       appeal I'd probably win, but is it worth the risk? Being close
       to some pretty difficult exams for me, I'd really like to avoid
       having to pick up shifts to pay for the £120.
       Woes of being a poor student!
       #Post#: 118106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Birmingham City Council PCN Corporation Street at Legge
       Street (outbound)
   DIR By: peodude
       Date: May 8, 2026, 6:57 am
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       Personally I would be appealing. 00:01 and Outbound, I'd like
       the odds of it being cancelled. Possibly even before
       adjudication.
       It is worth noting that appealing through Birmingham and then
       the adjudicators would kick it several months down the line, so
       you will not be asked to pay until after your exams.
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