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#Post#: 117964--------------------------------------------------
TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tedpower34
Date: May 6, 2026, 3:42 pm
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Back in May 2025 we received 3 PCNs for failing to pay the
congestion charge.
We decided to appeal the PCN's but during receiving the PCN's
and appealing, we moved address. I gave the new address during
the appeal process.
We then received a letter for 3rd party representation to both
the new address and old.
I promptly wrote back to TFL stating this was not an application
for 3rd party representation and explaining that we have moved
premises since the PCN were issued and can all correspondence go
to the new address. I have proof of postage / tracking and a
copy of this letter.
The vehicle address was updated with the DVLA. I heard nothing
more about the PCN's until 12th January when a bailiff reached
out to me at the correct address with a warrant of control.
I filled an PE2 and PE3 Out of time declaration as quickly as
possible. The first round was instantly rejected but I
re-submitted and received a letter to say that the forms were
being processed.
During this time I received a statement of truth from a TFL
appeals officer. 06/06/26 they claim TFL received 3rd party
authorisation, our appeal was rejected and a notice of rejection
was sent to me at the address provided by the DVLA (which is the
old address). At this point we had left the premises and had no
idea letters were still being sent to the old address.
It looks like from then on letters continued to go to our old
address up until the enforcement agents were instructed to
commence debt recovery. Of course they wrote to us a the new
address, I was made aware of the situation and filed the PE2 and
PE3.
We have now received a refusal on the 3 applications stating
that we have not provided acceptable proof for why the statutory
declaration was filed late and it looks like our next step is
pay or file a N244 form.
It looks like the fee is £313 is this per form or can the 3 be
grouped together and can I recoup this if I am successful?
Is this worth fighting? I do not believe TFL's statement of
truth is correct. They state they had 3rd party authorisation
but my letter did not say that and despite it being authorised
the "3rd party" wasn't even notified of the rejection.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and I will be seeking
legal help in the morning.
#Post#: 117968--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 6, 2026, 3:56 pm
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You told TfL of your new address whilst the enforcement process
was in progress, and have records to prove it, so I would be
strongly tempted to take the N244 route, although it is costly.
I would think a judge would rule in your favour as you did the
right thing about the change of address. As all three PCNs are
for the same thing, I would have thought only a single fee is
payable, but I'm only guessing here. You might contact: -
www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
for an answer.
Others here may comment too so wait a bit.
#Post#: 117975--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 6, 2026, 4:36 pm
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We then received a letter for 3rd party representation to both
the new address and old.
No such beast in the enforcement lexicon. But there is when
lease/hire companies are involved.
You need to start at square 1 pl i.e. are you the registered
keeper of the vehicle or simply the hirer/lessee. If the latter,
which?
#Post#: 117982--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tedpower34
Date: May 6, 2026, 5:08 pm
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#Post#: 117984--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tedpower34
Date: May 6, 2026, 5:36 pm
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> We then received a letter for 3rd party representation to both
the new address and old.
>
> No such beast in the enforcement lexicon. But there is when
lease/hire companies are involved.
>
> You need to start at square 1 pl i.e. are you the registered
keeper of the vehicle or simply the hirer/lessee. If the latter,
which?
>
--- End Quote ---
Hello,
When I made the appeal I gave an updated business address, it's
a van owned by my company. Their statement claims "06/06/2025
TFL received a representation from a 3rd party, 17/06/2025 TFL
issued letter in which third party authorisation was requested.
On 07/07/2025 TFL received third party authorisation. On
15/07/2025 the representation was rejected and a notice of
rejection sent to the respondent at the address provided by the
DVLA"
My letter did not give third party authorisation, I explained
that we are in the process of moving premises and I had given
the new address during the appeal and it was not a third party.
All correspondence to go to the new address which my letter was
addressed from and the address given in the appeal.
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I think it also might be worth adding there were actually 4 PCNs
that got to this stage of enforcement. I filed 4 identical PE2
and PE3 forms and 1 has been filed but the other 3 rejected.
#Post#: 117997--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 7, 2026, 3:00 am
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You, and apparently TfL, are mistaking 'third party
authorisation' for transfer of liability.
A TPA means that they(whoever they are) authorise you to act on
their behalf. But the liability remains theirs, NOT yours, and
ultimately the penalty must be paid by them(or you on their
behalf) and in default bailiff action would be taken against
THEM, not you. IMO, everything has to be done in their name.
#Post#: 118016--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: Bailiff Advice
Date: May 7, 2026, 5:35 am
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--- Quote from: tedpower34 link ---
>
> Back in May 2025 we received 3 PCNs for failing to pay the
congestion charge.
>
> I gave the new address during the appeal process.
>
> I promptly wrote back to TFL stating this was not an
application for 3rd party representation and explaining that we
have moved premises since the PCN were issued and can all
correspondence go to the new address. I have proof of postage /
tracking and a copy of this letter.
>
> The vehicle address was updated with the DVLA. I heard nothing
more about the PCN's until 12th January when a bailiff reached
out to me at the correct address with a warrant of control.
>
> We have now received a refusal on the 3 applications stating
that we have not provided acceptable proof for why the statutory
declaration was filed late and it looks like our next step is
pay or file a N244 form.
>
> It looks like the fee is £313 is this per form or can the 3 be
grouped together and can I recoup this if I am successful?
--- End Quote ---
I have highlighted above the most important points.
An N244 fee is either £123 for having the case reviewed by a
District Judge WITHOUT you needing to attend the hearing.
Alternatively, if you wished to attend a personal hearing, the
fee is £313.Unfortunately, the fee is charged for EACH PCN
number.
The Ministry of Justice are looking at removing the right for
the motorist to elect for a personal hearing.
PS: Because you had contacted TFL and notified them that you
were moving (and you provided them with your new address), you
should have excellent grounds in which to seek a review. There
has been a recent Court of Appeal case on this very point.
#Post#: 118021--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 7, 2026, 6:56 am
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For BAO, would the fact that the OP was not the respondent but
only their representative affect matters?
#Post#: 118035--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: tedpower34
Date: May 7, 2026, 8:33 am
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> You, and apparently TfL, are mistaking 'third party
authorisation' for transfer of liability.
>
> A TPA means that they(whoever they are) authorise you to act
on their behalf. But the liability remains theirs, NOT yours,
and ultimately the penalty must be paid by them(or you on their
behalf) and in default bailiff action would be taken against
THEM, not you. IMO, everything has to be done in their name.
>
--- End Quote ---
We did not ask to be represented by a third party, TFL mistook
the different addresses used for the appeal as a third party
making representation for us. A letter was sent in response
outlining this was not a third party and our address has changed
from the point the PCN was issued and the appeal being made.
The PCN was made out to the company and it was the company that
responded to the appeal just using a new address.
They have stated that 3rd party representation was approved
(which we didn't ask for) and continued to send letters to the
old address.
#Post#: 118039--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL N244 Form from congestion Charge PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 7, 2026, 8:40 am
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So it was a cock-up by TfL. Even more reason to go the N244
route.
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