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#Post#: 117718--------------------------------------------------
Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on Entering
a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: syd16
Date: May 4, 2026, 8:01 am
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Hi, I received a PCN from Redbridge council for entering Sydney
Road, Barkingside. Been entering this road for years and only
realised they had this restriction, and worse I entered just to
park on the side to use the cashpoint for the barbers, so I was
literally there for only 2 minutes. I have seen some posts on
this forum around this one being challenged for the sign.
Appreciate any help if there are grounds to challenge or
consider it as a very expensive haircut!
PCN here:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/HphR2qtV/IMG-5439.jpg
Some photos of the sign:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/svYHvgfn/IMG-5427.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/gL31Bp6d/IMG-5426.jpg
#Post#: 117740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 4, 2026, 12:38 pm
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The 2nd thread this week where the signs have been placed
excessively high up. There is no possible need for the blue
sign; it is not a traffic sign, not is there really any need for
the camera sign. If these were omitted, the sign could be
respositioned lower down, and hence more in a driver's line of
sight.
Can you please post a GSV link to the location
#Post#: 117787--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: syd16
Date: May 5, 2026, 4:28 am
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This is the GSV link but it's from 2018 so doesn't show the new
signs in place:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/apULsfJgZ3dXCd7fA
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/apULsfJgZ3dXCd7fA
You're right there, lots of information on the signs, some
unnecessary and very high up, how can a driver assess all that
in a couple of seconds whilst turning into the road :(
#Post#: 117794--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 5, 2026, 5:27 am
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We need to know if there are any advance warning signs on the
main road in either direction. If you can go and have a look and
take photos, it will help. Absence of advance signs makes your
reps stronger.
#Post#: 117823--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: syd16
Date: May 5, 2026, 11:54 am
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I checked today and these signs appear either side of the road:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/DDRGvDB0/IMG-5445.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/mFNFZVYd/IMG-5446.jpg
#Post#: 117855--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 5, 2026, 5:41 pm
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The presence of these advance warning signs makes it much more
difficult to overturn a PCN on signage (inadequacy). At the
moment, I see only excessive height of the signs incl the
advance signs as well.
There may be a 'technical' appeal based on Redbridge's
mismanagement of the enforcement process, so wait a bit to see
what may be possible, but don't miss any deadlines on the PCN.
#Post#: 117874--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: rsg444
Date: May 6, 2026, 4:02 am
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I'd like to add, the first sign that OP has posted (the advance
notice sign) is more often than not obscured by the double
decker busses that stop at the bus stop. If you are approaching
the junction travelling southbound (towards Gants Hill) and
there is a bus or two at the stop, that sign will be missed.
Immediately before the bus stop, there is a Yellow Box junction
- there is so much stuff drivers are expected to look out for,
IMO the signs are deliberately placed too high.
The second photograph is when you're travelling northbound
towards Fullwell Cross - while this isn't at a bus stop, I have
to ask why the junction is shown as a T junction on the advanced
notice sign - it isn't a T junction at all.
#Post#: 117878--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 6, 2026, 4:34 am
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So really, if the OP wants to stand his ground, there is an
answer to the advance signs visibility. Of course the full PCN
penalty will be in play at London Tribunals as always.
#Post#: 117883--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: rsg444
Date: May 6, 2026, 5:02 am
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Totally, if the OP has dashcam footage of their approach to the
junction, it may assist (if its obscured by a bus) - that's if
they want to take it to the Adjudicator. As you rightly point
out, its the full amount at play.
#Post#: 118092--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on
Entering a Pedestrian Zone
DIR By: syd16
Date: May 8, 2026, 4:38 am
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I don't have any dashcam footage but I went and measured the
signage height using my phone measure app and it seems to be too
high according to TSRGD requirements of 2.15m-2.40m.
Main sign (2.9m-4.1m)
HTML https://i.ibb.co/cSm81gnV/IMG-5462.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/YB0Bz8yh/IMG-5463.jpg
Advance notice sign (2.7m-3.3m)
HTML https://i.ibb.co/fYWX5cGH/IMG-5460.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/NgcV34N8/IMG-5461.jpg
I have only considered the main signage of the restriction not
the blue or camera sign. Would you this therefore be decent
grounds for appeal?
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